Halt Covid Vaccine, Prominent Scientist tells CDC

I really appreciate all the detail you gave me, & any other readers. I'm curious as to whether this is, or overlaps, your field of work. Also, if you happen to have any links, related to your info, I am always grateful to have them, as well, in case I wish to research anything further.

Now, for the bad news. You must have missed my earlier post, in which I said that I had chosen to get the Johnson & Johnson (Jansen), single-dose injection, which uses conventional technology, not mRNA, which is the focus of your reply. So I don't know how much of your generous response really applies, in my case. I realize, of course, there's not much I can do about things, at this point. But I still like to know; from your thorough reply, I take it that you can relate to having a thirst for knowledge.

 

I deal with infectious diseases in several non human species on a daily basis. I choose appropriate vaccines for these species and administer thousands of doses of them annually. I was blessed with a pretty good education in biology and animal science. The most common term used to describe my occupation is “farmer” even though when we are feeling uppity we refer to ourselves as “agricultural producers”. And yes I love to learn.

I can find you links on specific points if you ask for something specific. But my posts are generally based on too many formal and informal (past education) sources to try and list them all.

Ah, yes I missed that you had the J&J. You referenced mRNA in recent posts so I made incorrect assumptions. Sorry!

With the J&J vaccine your cells are transfected by the adenovirus vector so yes, the cells are “attacked” by your immune system and destroyed through apoptosis—a well choreographed cell death process. The remains of the dead infected cell are “ingested” by white blood cells that present the antigen from the dead ingested cells to the rest of the immune system.

Adenovirus infections are mild and common so vector vaccines using them are highly unlikely to cause immune dysfunction. The J&J vector does not replicate (as opposed to the AstraZeneca vector) so that’s another plus for safety.

Oh, even though DNA vaccines like the J&J have been used in animal vaccines and have been trialed in humans, none have ever been approved for use in humans so it’s not exactly a conventional technology. We have a little more experience with it than mRNA technology, but it’s still a novel vaccine.

 

Whether anybody is being duped is a fact having nothing to do with what I post, or even whether I live or die.

It is easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled.

When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.

The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.

That last paragraph was written by Edward Bernays nearly a century ago. That's how long the official manipulation of the public perception has been going on using taxpayer dollars.

Agreeing or disagreeing with me has nothing at all to do with whether or not a person has been deceived.

 

Of course it does if your postulation someone/everyone/anyone is being deceived is incorrect.

 

Spike protein in the blood stream...I take it is a conern of Definning and 557 and many others I might add.

I tried my best to find these articles that comment directly on the anxiety being caused by the concept of spike protein in the blood stream which debunk the spike protein in blood stream is causing toxic deaths argument:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-deadly-coronavirus-spike-protein/

https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/spike-protein-circulating-in-the-vaccinated-what-does-it-mean

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...9-vaccines-arent-dangerous-toxins/7505236002/

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...of-researcher-claim-covid-19-vaccines-spike-/

 

No, spike protein from vaccines is not a concern of mine. I went to the trouble of pointing out the lack of evidence it’s causing any damage for the short amount of time it’s detectable.

Your second link is pretty good. Fact based and supported by underlying principles of immunology even when data is lacking. Like I said, nobody knows all the mechanisms involved—we are learning as we go.

 

I say again, from Kierkegaard: It is easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled. The shoe fits sir.

 

You assume anyone who does not agree with you is fooled. That is an assumption you make. Maybe you should read Kierkegaard a bit more slowly to find out the context in which he stated the above.

 

Sorry misunderstood. Got you.

 

No worries. Thanks for posting the actual links based on empirical evidence and foundations of biology. We need more of that and less unsubstantiated opinions.

 

Welcome. We are all trying to figure it out. It can be damn confusing for sure. I am like you trying to weigh it all out.

 

I’ve had the unique advantage of not having to worry about Covid affecting my health so have been able remain unemotional about the whole thing. I’ve been on the outside looking in (for the majority of the pandemic) on people concerned about their life/health and on entities playing on and to those fears.

That’s why it’s difficult to figure things out. Because everyone from anti vaxxers to public health epidemiologists are attempting to, and succeeding in, spreading mis/disinformation. It’s very difficult to see the mis/disinformation when one is involved emotionally in the health consequences and political ramifications of the pandemic.

I care nothing about the politics and don’t have to be in any danger from Covid I don’t deliberately choose to risk. I only care about helping others get good, accurate information on virology and epidemiology so they can make decisions best for themselves and those they love. I’m not interested in what’s best for big business, politicians, pharma, or “the collective”. I care about everyday folks having accurate information to base their personal decisions on.

 

It is nice to see DEBATE conducted with a measure of Civility

& I hope that we can agree --- That it becomes far easier & less confusing "to weigh it all out"
..................................................... when we are allowed to Freely Access ALL of the pertinent DATA

Re:
The Video that brings us Dr Bridles concerns regarding recent Japanese "Peer Reviewed"
Scientific Research that strongly contradicts the MSM narrative that our Authorities have set
.......................................................................................................................................... their Policies on.

They have therefore deemed this Research .unfit and improper for the Consumption of both
YOU and the great unwashed. and so Censor said Disinformation. - And AFTER it has thus
been Censored & Removed from public purview, - we are then made endure a virtual flood
of expensive Corporate MUD. - A tsunami of Smoke, Mirrors and Ad Hominem flushed out
.............. over the MSM controlled air-ways to fog and obscure the peoples attention from any
....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.. Aberrant Facts that might have escaped.

Personally I take offence at Censorship and see it as equivalent to a LIE
How many times does an Authority have to Lie to US before WE collectively grow
....................................................................................................... a spine and call them Liars

Those are my OPINIONS on the subject. - The FACTS based on "empirical evidence and
foundations of biology" as they are found in the Japanese Peer Reviewed Research
...........................................................................................................................................REMAIN

 

No, I've been fooled too. It's not a matter of agreeing with me. We've all been fooled, but some realize it eventually. 15 months in some appear to never realize it.

 

Uh yah it is a matter of agreeing with you. You don't know what I believe or do not believe you assume and that is why I challenge you. You assume. You make generalizations not just about me but everyone but you when you assume they or I are fooled. Who is" fooled" and by what or to what extent is open ended. For you claim you know it is absurd.

Get back to me when you can prove fractal constellations end. Until then I will just marvel at the infinite variety of nuances, thoughts, fears, you and I and all others have. Anyone who thinks they can reduce the complexity of human thought into neat rigid parameters needs some prune juice and more fibre in their diet if you ask which you did not.