Hang The Russians, Hang The Russians

If you give a good argument it can influence my opinion. Propaganda of Russia is really not affecting me that much. Just because I don't take it. I don't have a TV. I have always preffered to make conclusions of what is happening using different sources of information.

And that is the world main weakness for the moment. If western people start at least to compare there absolutely non-sensible propaganda at least within itself (time and sources) they would start noticing that once Osama Bin Laden fought the soviets he was an ally of the US. They would notice that after every visit of US official (or EU official sometimes) the new bloody events start in Ukraine, which firstly lead to victorius expectations and then lead to blaming of Russia in all the useless bloodshed that was the result. If westerners start to compare 2 different propagandas - they would make a leap forward and make themselves almost impossible to deceive. But such a step is inevitable only in the case that a person accepts the corporat media as just another propaganda. This step is difficult to take.

Not really. Look how difficult it was for the US to break the Ukrainian state. The Maidan was created in November and even in case of 100% corrupt ukrainian government and 20 years of preliminary propaganda ukrainian people didn't start to shoot at one another. They sang songs. Demanded elections and better people in the government. Better laws. But they were not as easy to provoke shooting at each other. US trained facsits were burning police for a month without having provoked them for a real strike back. And at the end it was blackwater snipers who shot both maidowns and policemen for what was required as a decration for propaganda media in the west.
Look how hard it is for a team where Obama plays to peruade his people that they ned to go to war. People of the US also demand to stop hostility. To look for democratic way out. To get out of Ukraine all the agents that have a task to heat up the situation (which they believe are russians, but here not the nationality matters but what people really want). Even ukrainian puppets in Kievan junta are firstly puched to organise a kind of referendum and then a CIA director needs to blackmail them to start an 'anti-terrorist operation'. And once army and spec ops from Ukraine refuse to do that junta proclaims a cease fire..., which is cancelled after mr Baiden's visit. So don't think that it is an easy job to make people ready for war. You are ready for war. But you will squeak right after someone's get killed next you. Real people, who understand what the war is will not give up. Real americans and russians will fight till the last drop of their blood, till the last breth. And it takes a lot of power to force this humanitary mountain-stone down the hill. So once it is on the go it will really be impossible to stop it.

Is Putin at your doorsteps. The only americans that are reported in propaganda as attacked were sent to the hands of ukrainian rebels ... by US itself. That's a very poor staging, but unfortunately quite enough for your kind.
It was not Russia and Putin who started a bloody coup in Ukraine. But Putin of course realizes that the Ukraine no longer exists and it is USA and white house who is a true enemy in the war that is already happening.

I haven't seen it in the official sources, but I see no reason why 20th of february is such a bad date. I understood that there will be blood in Kiev in the beginning of January, when there was a facsist parade in Kiev. I looked at the faces, young russian faces, of its participants and I understood that they want to kill. To kill me. Just because they were told by US that russians are bad. (which I also read in their propaganda). That moment it was still a time when Yanukovich had government, money, police and every possibility to resist. But I already knew that if he is pushed really hard he will give up... I don't think that crimeans and Putin are not cleverer than I am. Once I saw in the end of the month at the start of provocations against the police I understood that this is not about change of a president. But it is about civil war. And the sides of these civil war are russians and ukrainians.
That moment I started to write in Russia about such dangers. Because that is the only thing I could do.
Having talked ot lits of people I heard that there is a plan for Sevastopol and Crimea. I heard about such plan in the begining of february. It sounded like "guys, don't panic. We will not give up our people in Crimea." This sounded like a regular chat but still it was enough for me to remember.
Planning to take control on the peninsula that noone is able to make even a decent provocation - is a tough job. I think that the plans for such a thing were ready last year. And I am sure that the plans in Moscow on how to act on the fifth day of the nuclear war with US also exist. Which is absolutely right. After the snipers in Kiev shot people and the hot civil war begun it triggered the planned operation in Crimea. So the date of 20th february is absolutely logical. The 19th of february would sound really as an agression against Yanukovich who is still a legitimate president of the Ukraine. But to break the plans of US aggressors and murderers of kievan maidowns just to make a good picture for deceived people of US was necessary as quick as it was possible. And 20th of february is exactly the date I would start this operation if I was Putin.

 

God is listening to you ))
Just today was destroyed monument of our Sagaidachniy in Sevastopol http://interfax.com.ua/news/general/202407.html

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there were no russians before XVIII ))

 

if you don't know Ukrainian, then you should say `the person in the video is saying that ......` but not `children massed in the streets screaming hang the Russians`. Especially when you unsure about this.
Because the person at this video is lying and you repeat its lying.

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until XVII `russians` were moskowians.

 

what about betrayers?

 

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The dynasty of Rurikids (&#1056;&#1102;&#1088;&#1080;&#1082;&#1086;&#1074;&#1080;&#1095;&#1080;, Rurikovichy) moved to Moscow, and Rurikids were the original rulers of Rus.

The Rurikids just enlarged their original little kingdom, called Rus with the capital in Kiev, and they moved the capital of their Kingdom to different cities, to Novgorod, to Vladimir, to Moscow, then to Sankt Petersburg, and the Bolsheviks moved it back to Moscow.

Well, they had the right to do that, because they were the only legitimate rulers!

Peter the Great moved the capital to Sankt Petersburg, so what?

Does that mean that Moscow and Kiev stopped being part of the Russian Kingdom that later became the Russian Empire?



The arguments of the crazy Ukrainian nationalist is just crazy! It is obvious that Ukraine is an artificial creation of Bolsheviks, there were no Ukrainians, Small Russians also called themselves RUSSIANS!

Here is the list of Russian rulers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_rulers

This list begins with Rurik (who ruled Rus from his capital in Kiev) and ends with Nicolaus II who ruled Rus from his capital in Sankt Petersburg.


The Grand Princes of Moscow INHERITED Rus, and they were the only legitimate rulers of ALL Rus (Grand Russia, Small Russia and New Russia).

They called themselves &#1062;&#1072;&#1088;&#1100; &#1074;&#1089;&#1077;&#1103; &#1056;&#1091;&#1089;&#1080; (Tsar of all Rus).

Ivan IV the Terrible was a Rurikovich, and he ruled Rus from his capital in Moscow.

The former territory of Rus, conquered by Poles and Lithuanians, did not have any royal dynasty that stemmed from Rurik.
This was just Russian land, subjugated by Catholics, and that is the reason why some Russian peasants spoke a "simple language" that was in fact a Russian-Polish pidgin, and this pidgin is today called "Ukrainian".

 

Russian Empire was coined term and not used.
Just Moskowia.

 

You arguments are funny.

We have American troops in Germany, too.

Does that mean that all German elections since the end of WWII are illegal?

Are you kidding?

 

The people in the clip spoke Russian, not Ukrainian.
I can understand Russian, and I can confirm that the translation into English was correct.

 

You are right since you are all the same people, and there shouldn't be national boundaries. The separation had to do with the bishop people were under, and frankly this is what Putin want's to bring back. He said he want's to restore historical Russia which was a loose confederation of Slavic States.

 

Jeannette, et al,

I don't mind saying, I'm not at all sure --- after listening, that I fully appreciate the actual dispute.

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Nor do I understand what role the US has in all this?

What are the necessary salient points for the outside observer to understand in order to grasp the scope and nature of the conflict?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

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We are not the same bacause stealing our name doesn't make the theaves us.

 

The problem is that western Europe not strong enough to give Ukraine fully economic support, compare to Russia, afterall It seems just a game between the US and Russia! No reason for western Europe to give too much effort to this issue. But if Ukraine depart to two.....the whole Europe must pay heavy cost before this happen

 

they can live together in a totalitarian regime only , as they had been living in the USSR Bolsheviki in their interests brought together incompatible

 

yes.it's correct,
+ ukroethnicity was declared in 1909 only

 

Give the facts that the Russian agents kill the Ukrainian politicians and abduct the American journalists. Without the facts your words have no value. Chatter

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVXm9nnY-AQ
It is video, from one participant of the right sector. To look completely
Tragedy of the southeast of Ukraine. Odessa on May, 2nd.

 

https://www.youtube.com/embed/uuMxYuGdrw4

And it is result of work of "the right sector" - fascists of modern Ukraine.
Odessa on May, 2nd. Alive burnt people

 

http://youtu.be/JlIpoF_S-XE

Very young girls from the radical organisation "Right sector" prepare a gas mixture to set fire to inhabitants of Odessa