Hate Speech

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  1. garyd

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    Sorry in that day and time a woman needed to have the help of a man to make babies. And the point sir is that attempting to raise them without one doesn't with frequency work well.
     
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    The Bell Curve has never been disproved. The failure of Head Start and No Child Left Behind confirm assertions made by Charles Murray and Professor Richard Herrnstein.

    I am able to prove my assertions without making groundless assertions about those who disagree with me.
     
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    My assertion is that if you’re quoting or citing a white nationalist, then I automatically put you and your work in the trash bin because to me you don’t deserve a right to speak or be heard or be treated with respect in any way, and everything you’ve posted in this thread makes me feel validated in saying that your opinions don’t matter. In fact, you don’t matter.

    Anyway, the bell curve was written in 1994, lots of **** has changed in 30 years so its an outdated thing.
     
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    I am still waiting for the word "The" to be deemed hate speech being it was created in old England by white people.
     
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    Considered offensive by leftist weiners who are constantly hunting another way to divide and conquer. Sorry take your book of weinerisms and stick it where the sun don't shine.

    Sorry dude there is no way on earth to avoid offending members of the still tiny church of the perpetually offended so why should any one rational even bother to try?
     
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    So, you admit the USA was targeting blacks on it's war on drugs?
    Since it did not start under Roosevelt, but after civil rights was in place.
     
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    Yes, because the laws were targeting them. Or the focus was on them.
    That's why incarceration rates were higher and longer.
     
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    That is a product of the system.
    They were put into max security prison at higher rates for similar crimes compared to other skin colors. Systemic racism.
     
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    thx.
    What state sponsored education system are you referring to?

    Since each district sponsors their own education system.
    Local school boards determine who runs their local education system.

    Do you think every school district in USA is the same?j
     
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    Guess you didn't bother to look at 1st link I provided.
     
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    You've provided ZERO evidence to support you claim.

    But, after the civil rights movement, my links showed a target on non whites.

    Prior to 1968, it was mostly legal to just discriminate and leave blacks out of society.
    After civil rights movement, that was illegal, so putting males in jail was an alternative.
     
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    And yet, you did not.
    Even though, 2 opinions are not facts.
     
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    Since you have *no reason to assume that this is who the dictionary is referring to-- in fact, the rational assumption would be that those who are offended, would be Asians, not wokesters (or "leftist weiners")-- the thing there seems no reason to bother trying to do, is reasoning with you.
     
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    Cocaine and grass first became illegal in the 1930's and whole other classes of therapeutics as well. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) was started under Teddy and it's powers were greatly expand under FDR and the DEA was created under FDR. So yes the War on Drugs began during FDR's reign of terror. No other president so expanded the power of the federal government like FDR especially in the realm of intelligence gathering.
     
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    No it was targeting every one who used drugs from the beginning. It still does drugs are the primary reason most of the Aryan nation thugs are in jail.
    Crack cocaine was targeted for elimination by the federal government in 1996 at the behest of the congressional Black Caucus, back when they still gave something of a damn about their constituents, because crack cocaine and the associated gang violence was destroying inner city neighborhoods at an alarming pace. Now they are no longer alarmed by said destruction they are enablers if it.
     
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    Yes I did it was revisionist ahistorical garbage founded on ridiculous assumptions.
     
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    And yet the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of black males are not in jail and never have been. There have been black entrepreneurs in this country almost from the beginning. In fact the civil war burning of Atlanta, actually a result of the rebel army's attempt to burn the supplies they couldn't take with them, destroyed a growing, black manufactory that made leather goods.
     
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    People of your persuasion try to silence people of my persuasion because you know that your opinions will not win a candid debate where facts and logical reasoning matter.

    Since The Bell Curve was published in 1994 genetic research has substantiated its assertions. So has the failure of Head Start and No Child Left Behind.
     
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    Those measures reduced the crime rate.
     
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    bellcurve5.jpg
     
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    Except that is a wokester assumption in and of itself. No one other than wokester give a crap about that stuff. Hell no one even uses the term because it is so non specific. It's basically like saying an inhabitant of the eastern hemisphere. Is it offensive to call Japanese Japanese? Or Chinese, Chinese? Sorry but your argument is pointless and more than a bit silly.
     
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    The Asian in the link below is CLEARLY blaming it on the wokesters....

    The term ‘Oriental’ is outdated, but is it racist? - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

    ......."As an Oriental, I am bemused. Apparently Asians are supposed to feel demeaned if someone refers to us as Orientals. But good luck finding a single Asian American who has ever had the word spat at them in anger. Most Asian Americans have had racist epithets hurled at them at one time or another: Ch*nk, slant eye, gook, Nip, zipperhead. But Oriental isn’t in the canon.

    And why should it be? Literally, it means of the Orient or of the East, as opposed to of the Occident or of the West. Last I checked, geographic origin is not a slur. If it were, it would be wrong to label people from Mississippi as Southerners."




    ......."Lee [a wokester] also claimed that continued use of the term “perpetuates inequality, disrespect, discrimination and stereotypes towards Asian Americans.” I don’t see it that way; I see self-righteous, fragile egos eager to find offense where none is intended. A wave of anti-Oriental discrimination is not sweeping the country."



    ........"My profession, Oriental medicine, is among those on the receiving end of the identity-politics outbreak. A funny thing I noticed is that my Caucasian (dare I say Occidental?) colleagues, not my Asian colleagues, are most eager to remove Oriental from public discourse. I suppose they’re busy shouldering their burden of guilt. Margaret Cho said it best: “White people like to tell Asians how to feel about race because they’re too scared to tell black people.”
     
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    That you feel the need to put the word 'right' in quotes says enough about you as an individual that I need not read any more.

    Free speech is an absolute RIGHT (not a 'right', with an unstated question mark), even if it is hateful speech that I disagree with vehemently. As an ex-soldier I have always said that I might absolutely despise the ideas that someone might espouse (think blatant racism or something similar), but that I would fight to the death to defend their right to say it, and I still feel that way despite the many decades it's been since I took off the Uniform for the last time. I don't have to like, or agree with someone's speech or ideas to think it is proper that people be allowed to express whatever opinion their black hearts might wish to express.

    That doesn't mean some hateful speech might have consequences, for example if it comes to light with a potential employer, you may find they are no longer a potential employer, but that doesn't mean they should be prosecuted, or face any other legal consequence.
     
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    Black prison exonerees outpace white counterparts, study says
    September 27, 20225:02 PM ET
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    Alana Wise

    Innocent Black people are significantly more likely to face wrongful convictions than innocent white people, a September report by the National Registry of Exonerations found, highlighting the stark racial disparities Black Americans continue to battle within the U.S. justice system.

    On high-level offenses – murder, sexual assault, and drug crimes – Black Americans are seven times more likely to be victims of police misconduct and spend more time in prison than their white counterparts, the study found.
    https://www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1125...onerees-outpace-white-counterparts-study-says

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    Blacks are targeted
     
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    Black prison exonerees outpace white counterparts, study says
    September 27, 20225:02 PM ET
    By

    Alana Wise

    Innocent Black people are significantly more likely to face wrongful convictions than innocent white people, a September report by the National Registry of Exonerations found, highlighting the stark racial disparities Black Americans continue to battle within the U.S. justice system.

    On high-level offenses – murder, sexual assault, and drug crimes – Black Americans are seven times more likely to be victims of police misconduct and spend more time in prison than their white counterparts, the study found.
     

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