Hate Speech

Black prison exonerees outpace white counterparts, study says
September 27, 20225:02 PM ET
By

Alana Wise

Innocent Black people are significantly more likely to face wrongful convictions than innocent white people, a September report by the National Registry of Exonerations found, highlighting the stark racial disparities Black Americans continue to battle within the U.S. justice system.

On high-level offenses – murder, sexual assault, and drug crimes – Black Americans are seven times more likely to be victims of police misconduct and spend more time in prison than their white counterparts, the study found.
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1125...onerees-outpace-white-counterparts-study-says

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Done on purpose. Target and wreck the black communities.
Systemically.

 

People of my persuasion actually wanna silence yours because you're a complete racist, you've tried to downplay it and blame your racism on everyone else and you're never gonna change your ways. We don't wanna hear your opinions because you're opinions don't count and you don't deserve to be heard, there's nothing important or respectful about you or your viewpoints and I'd never defend you if you had your freedom of speech stripped so whatever you have to say is less than worthless.

And we don't wanna debate with you either because we know what you'll say and nothing we say is gonna change it.

 

Outdated data from 30 years ago isn't good enough, gonna have to do better.

 

Hi, DentalFloss.

The quote marks are intended to remind folks that rights, as defined in amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America, are not necessarily forever. I place in evidence the 18th Amendment.

How you label me does not in the least change who and what I am, nor what I do or do not stand for.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

I have always liked Orientals. I first became aware that Orientals existed when I was six or seven I was watching a television documentary about Japanese school children. I remember thinking, "Some white girls look pretty. Some do not. All Japanese girls look pretty." I soon learned that Chinese girls looked just as good.

My two best friends in high school were Chinese Americans. I have dated Oriental women. I have never known an Oriental I did not like.

 

No facts will change what you say about blacks, but you know that what I say is true.

 

They draw the conclusion that innocent Black people are significantly more likely to face wrongful convictions than innocent white people, because the given data says that black prison exonerees outpace their white counterparts. Undoubtedly, if the results showed white prison exonerees outpacing their black counterparts, the narrative would then be that innocent black people are not exonerated nearly as often as their white counterparts.

No matter the numbers, it can ALWAYS be spun as if the given data shows systemic racism.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

The reason so many blacks are in prison is because blacks have an extremely high crime rate.

 

All school districts are the same in regards to losing around 8% of funding if they don’t conform to federal guidelines like NCLB and Every Child Succeeds Act for example. How can schools that can’t afford to let children play give up 8% of their funding? That 8% doesn’t include infrastructure grants and money through USDA etc. for food programs.

All school districts are the same in each state under state law. I’m referring to state sponsored/mandated education. That includes both federal and state controls. All districts are the same in that funding relies on following state and federal guidelines and laws.

All districts are the same in that all are Prussian models using centralized training of teachers. I’m open to evidence you may have that some school districts are not using centralized accredited teachers in Prussian models of education. There may be some district somewhere that does not use the Prussian model but I’m unaware of any. Even private schools use the Prussian model the vast majority of the time. I’m only aware of one private school that does not.

Yes, different states and districts desire varying degrees of actual education, but all prioritize the social engineering aspects of the Prussian education model. Some states just want a little smarter product coming out the other end than others. That’s why there is little correlation between dollars spent per student and student academic achievement by state. Some states and districts prioritize learning and thinking a little more than others, but all districts use the Prussian model for the same reasons.

 

Absolutely not, just 'cause you can cite 30 year old data that hasn't evolved since then doesn't mean anything apart from your racist nonsense.

See, responses like this are why I'm perfectly comfortable being as rude and unkind toward you as possible, because you seem to think it's the crime rate when there's really also a ton of black people in prison that simply don't belong there, whether it's because of bad lawyering or because the police arrested the wrong man.

When people use the "some of my friends were XYZ" excuse when called out, they're usually liars and just say this in the hope that everyone ignores their other racist ****. Again, more proof of why I don't think you're important enough to be heard.

 

Well actually because they did a plea bargain to get that sentence. In other words there is no such thing in American jurisprudence as the same crime.

 

You think I am important to respond to. Insults and name calling are the lowest form of discourse. They are all you have. The facts are on my side.

 

I can think of something lower, and putting aside most of your facts just being things several decades either out of date, lacking context or just you being a racist, I’m more than happy to insult racists.

 

Insults are a poor substitute for fact based and rational arguments.

The facts do not change. They are being substantiated by genetic research.

 

Once again, your facts are based on 30 year old data that is pretty outdated and then you try to use terrible Facebook memes to try and back it up. Your arguments aren’t rational, you’re not rational and you’re just a racist. You’re not a Klansmen but you’re just as bad.

 

Your "point" is baseless, and uninformed; unless the person you are making it to, also *does not consider Asians to be people. What source are you using, for knowing that East Asians do not mind the term "Oriental," as a description of themselves-- your intimate understanding of a multitude of Asians? Why am I skeptical of that being the case?

I actually have once been acquainted with someone who was half Chinese and who took great umbrage to the term-- notwithstanding his mistranslation of it. He believed that the word "Occidental (Western)" meant "round-eyed," and so that "Oriental" meant, or at least implied, "slant-eyed." A post by someone in this thread, in fact-- perhaps you-- implied that it would be so much easier, if we could still refer people in that manner.

It does not matter that, as I'd said, the person's word etymology was incorrect (occidental, comes from the Latin for "to fall," cadere, since the sun sets, in the West). The real basis for his feeling that European peoples had debased those on his father's side of his lineage, was that it was Europeans who in the most recent history, were the colonial overlords of those regions; and the treatment was not as equals (see the Opium War). Since the name "Orient" is not their own name-- it is also a Western, Latin term for the east (literally "rising")-- it should be completely understandable that people living there, would not want to continue to be referred to, by a colonial term.

No, it absolutely is not, saying that. There is a word you can use, however, if you just want to designate someone as living in the Eastern hemisphere: it is "Eastern."

Your analogy would be something like saying that anyone living in the Americas, is a U.S. citizen.

And your argument exudes piles of Western hubris. Do Japanese people call themselves "Orientals?" So they should not mind, whatever term we decide to call them? And why, then, should black Americans mind, if we still called them "slaves," if we understood it to mean, having skin color akin to those who once were slaves, in this country? It is this history, which people, in both cases, find denigrating, humiliating, and of which they would prefer not to be, appropriate of nothing, reminded. What is wrong with, instead of calling a person "or-i-en-tal," you say they are "of-the-Far-East?" It is the exact same number of syllables, and it is just as exact in location. The only thing it lacks, is the colonial attitude-- but, to you, is that the most important part?

 

And he speaks for all, or even for the majority, of Asians?

No Asian called themselves "Oriental" before Europeans invented the term. Do you realize that most of the Orient, in fairly recent historical terms, was under the thumb of colonial, European powers? And you don't think any Asians take offense at being referred to, by a term of those who were their oppressors?

Have you ever heard of the country of Burma? Are you aware that they changed their name to Myanmar? Any idea why they did that?

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As for the country's name, the commission decided to replace the English name "Burma" with "Myanmar", for three reasons. First, Myanma is the official name of the country in the Burmese language, and the aim of the commission was to have English place names aligned with Burmese place names and pronunciation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Names of Myanmar - Wikipedia
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Ever hear of Ceylon tea? The country of Ceylon, no longer exists-- do you want to guess why? Because that was the English name, for this island nation, south of India, which now goes by the name Sri Lanka. These are not the only two examples. You see, it is only natural for a liberated people, to no longer wish to retain vestiges of their subservience. That is what referring to all these people as "Orientals," from the Latin based name of this large area, is a reminder of. For further reference, see my reply to Garyd, immediately preceding this one.

 

For someone who thinks I should be censored you are giving me plenty of opportunities to express my opinions. Thank you.

How is The Bell Curve outdated? Where is there evidence that the right environment can significantly raise the IQ, and hence the school performance, of a child who performs poorly on an IQ test at the age of seven? Where is there evidence of intrinsic racial equality?

 

Oh look, a strawman where you argue against a point that has not been raised and then act as if that somehow refutes my point!

Bless your little heart.

Its a good thing that they have you to defend them against being referred to as from the East (sarcasm). Oh the horror of such indignity.

Good thing you saved the little people too!

 

RI state senator caught keying car with anti-Biden sticker

He considered the sticker to be 'hate speech'.

'Rhode Island State Senator Joshua Mille was arrested for damaging a vehicle on Thursday afternoon.'

'Miller was charged with vandalism/malicious injury to property after keying a car at Garden City Shopping Center.'


Guess Which Party.

 

It is your post, which is pure straw man fallacy. Well that, along with a false denial, that your post, based completely on one person's comments, is not your acting as if that single opinion is the authoritative, Asian view. That is how you can claim that my mocking of your pretense, is a "straw man." But that is rubbish-- how does the following post of yours, not rest solely on the words of one man?

FAW said: ↑
The Asian in the link below is CLEARLY blaming it on the wokesters....
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That is "clearly" using one Asian's opinion, as a supposed vindication of your entire argument. For me to point out that this is a bogus contention, on your part, is in no way a "straw man"-- do you not understand the meaning of the term? Here is the rest of your post:

So just to recap, before the remainder of your post, which appears to be just more of the opinion, of this one Asian man (in red, below). In the quote, above, he makes the pretentious claim, that he can be sure that no one has ever referred to an "Oriental," meaning it in a derogatory way. Amazing-- how does he do that? He knows what was in the minds of everyone who has ever used that term? Then I can see why you would think his single opinion, is something to rest your entire post's argument upon, rather than as to just be counted as one man's opinion.

In his description of the meaning of "Oriental," however, he shows that he fails to understand the colonial power dynamic, probably because he was an American born Asian or, at least, that he is too young to have experienced it, himself, and has a poor sense of even recent history. So this one opinion, touted, in your article, is a viewpoint, based in ignorance.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'd missed that: after your entire post being just one person's opinion-- or your doing a miserable job of making it clear that the Asian person speaking in each instance, is not the same person (which would be your bad)-- your article does quote one line from Margaret Cho (acclaimed Asian scholar of sociology?). Massive fail, as "evidence" of anything, other than of two people's opinions. So your argument of this post relies on the supposition that two Asians could not possibly be wrong about something-- because all Orientals see things, exactly the same way?

That your article, btw, is referring to people as "wokester," tells anyone with an ounce of perception, that it is not at all objectively written. That is not my "straw man" argument-- those are the facts about the lame case, laid out in your post.

 

LOL. When I said "The Asian in the link is clearly blaming it on the wokesters".......That is an example of me CLEARLY stating that it is one Asian blaming it on the wokesters.

How could I POSSIBLY be any more clear on that point?

As far as the rest?....TLDR. I am bored with this, and have long since made my point. I'm not interested in a nonstop bickering session to nowhere.

 

* And that's an argument? One Asian guy said this-- what reaction do you expect, besides, "so what?"

You have offered your opinion, but you have established no point-- probably because you have thought of your replies as only "bickering," while I have offered logical arguments in rebuttal, as would typically be expected, of a debate.

 

LOL. Well, at least you dropped the nonsensical paraphrasing that said the exact opposite of what my short sentence said. I guess that is progress.

At any rate, it is time to move on. There is nothing worse than a conversation that just keeps droning on and on about the same thing using only slightly different wording each time.

 

Of course facts will never change those who wish to remain ignorant of facts.