Have Democrats abandoned the 'my body, my choice' argument?

Every human life has equal value......that is unless you embrace "situational ethics". That is a slippery slope! They play that game in Communist China.

 

The "life" inside a woman has only the value she places on it.

 

The Republican's damn sure have and will let you know your body is regulated by the state and when a GOP president takes office you will see vaccine mandates just like abortion and gender.

 

Ahem, they have played that game in the USA since day one.

 

IF you're waiting for them to recognize the hypocrisy of intoning that mantra for abortion and naught else......DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!!!

 

The Biden agenda. “Your body, my choice.”

 

Yes, it is very hypocritical for anyone to make an exception for abortion due to rape.

It is also hypocritical to pretend everyone has rights when they don't want pregnant women to have any rights.

 

yes a certain segment of the population does.

 

However, this would go a great deal toward lifting up our culture!!

 

LOL, how many would you adopt?

Why aren't all Anti-Choicers adopting now? LOL


What?

Is it too inconvenient?

Too expensive ?

Not enough white newborns??

 

I love when Anti-Choicers have to ignore posts they can't respond to

 

It's very hypocritical to criticize others' hypocrisy unless you're willing to clean up your own.

If you're not consistent about letting both or neither parent opt out of legal parenthood after a conception occurs, then you're being hypocritical.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Yes, it is very hypocritical for anyone to make an exception for abortion due to rape.

It is also hypocritical to pretend everyone has rights when they don't want pregnant women to have any rights.

LOL, are going to go over every issue on earth?



What gave you the idea I wasn't consistent ?


And do you agree with the post of mine you quoted?

 

True since the era of chattel slavery proved that capitalist will play the same damn game as the communist. It's human condition not a political condition.

 

It's about understanding the depravity of human nature and using a system of checks and balances which our Founders understood. Marxism on the other hand supposes there is a superior elite that can show lessor individuals how to live. It's about ideology.

 

Is that why the Founders okayed slavery so they could tell black slaves how to live? Your stupid use of Marxism is just cover for the elitist Founders who promoted a way of life, and they didn't outlaw abortion before the quickening.

 

Pleas note how this post will be ignored....


They have NO answer

 

We've been over this before. Unless your views have changed since then, you believe a female should be able to abort a gestating zygote or fetus for any reason, including not wanting to be responsible for the offspring it would become, and you object to the argument that a woman effectively and irrevocably consents to following through with parenthood when she has sex. While we agree that's an extreme view, it's not hypocritical unless you apply a different standard to the other parent.

 

NO, we do not agree it's an extreme view, it isn't.

Consent to one act ( sex) is not consent to any other act.

My standard applies to anyone who is pregnant.

 

"Extremism" is only ever used as a smear-tag to illegitimise an opinion without having to address it. In what way exactly is that position "extremist"? What is the poster being accused of here?

 

Well, why would a woman then evict her baby if the baby isn't causing any harm? It would be called murder to evict a tenant off your property. It should be murder as well to evict a baby not causing any harm except to cramp one's lifestyle.

 

GOODGAWD! LEARN SOMITHING !!!


Her "tenant" IS causing her harm:
Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

• exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
• altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
• nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
• heartburn and indigestion
• constipation
• weight gain
• dizziness and light-headedness
• bloating, swelling, fluid retention
• hemmorhoids
• abdominal cramps
• yeast infections
• congested, bloody nose
• acne and mild skin disorders
• skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
• mild to severe backache and strain
• increased headaches
• difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
• increased urination and incontinence
• bleeding gums
• pica
• breast pain and discharge
• swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
  (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
• extreme pain on delivery
• hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
• continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

• stretch marks (worse in younger women)
• loose skin
• permanent weight gain or redistribution
• abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
• pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
• changes to breasts
• increased foot size
• varicose veins
• scarring from episiotomy or c-section
• other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
• increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
• loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
• higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
• newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

• complications of episiotomy
• spousal/partner abuse
• hyperemesis gravidarum
• temporary and permanent injury to back
• severe scarring requiring later surgery
  (especially after additional pregnancies)
• dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
• pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
• eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
• gestational diabetes
• placenta previa
• anemia (which can be life-threatening)
• thrombocytopenic purpura
• severe cramping
• embolism (blood clots)
• medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
• diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
• mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
• serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
• hormonal imbalance
• ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
• broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
• hemorrhage and
• numerous other complications of delivery
• refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
• aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
• severe post-partum depression and psychosis
• research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
• research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
• research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

• peripartum cardiomyopathy
• cardiopulmonary arrest
• magnesium toxicity
• severe hypoxemia/acidosis
• massive embolism
• increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
• molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
  (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
• malignant arrhythmia
• circulatory collapse
• placental abruption
• obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:

• future infertility
• permanent disability
• death.

YES, all of the above including DEATH certainly does "cramp one's lifestyle"...and YOU wouldn't want YOUR lifestyle cramped that way I bet???

 

You are breaking my heart. 99% of those things are temporary and go away. And, sorry to the woman who uses those lame excuses to end her pregnancy after enjoying the sexual pleasures mostly out of wedlock or that will interfere with here career. Try non-homicidal methods of birth control then like abstinence before marriage, pills and condoms for being promiscuous before or during marriage. But, none of those lame reasons fly.

 

So you want to throw out the Founders even though a good many were against slavery. It eventually got overturned. Saw a leftist/Marxist/ Democrat in a Gorilla mask throw an egg at Larry Elder the other day.... it reminds me of when the Republicans passed the 13 th Amendment, and Blacks put on uniforms to fight, Democrat Confederates declared any of those plantation jumpers in uniform would be immediately shot. Well Larry jumped the government plantation and he's getting the same treatment!

 

Her "tenant" IS causing her harm:
Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

• exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
• altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
• nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
• heartburn and indigestion
• constipation
• weight gain
• dizziness and light-headedness
• bloating, swelling, fluid retention
• hemmorhoids
• abdominal cramps
• yeast infections
• congested, bloody nose
• acne and mild skin disorders
• skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
• mild to severe backache and strain
• increased headaches
• difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
• increased urination and incontinence
• bleeding gums
• pica
• breast pain and discharge
• swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
  (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
• extreme pain on delivery
• hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
• continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

• stretch marks (worse in younger women)
• loose skin
• permanent weight gain or redistribution
• abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
• pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
• changes to breasts
• increased foot size
• varicose veins
• scarring from episiotomy or c-section
• other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
• increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
• loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
• higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
• newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

• complications of episiotomy
• spousal/partner abuse
• hyperemesis gravidarum
• temporary and permanent injury to back
• severe scarring requiring later surgery
  (especially after additional pregnancies)
• dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
• pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
• eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
• gestational diabetes
• placenta previa
• anemia (which can be life-threatening)
• thrombocytopenic purpura
• severe cramping
• embolism (blood clots)
• medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
• diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
• mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
• serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
• hormonal imbalance
• ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
• broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
• hemorrhage and
• numerous other complications of delivery
• refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
• aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
• severe post-partum depression and psychosis
• research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
• research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
• research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

• peripartum cardiomyopathy
• cardiopulmonary arrest
• magnesium toxicity
• severe hypoxemia/acidosis
• massive embolism
• increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
• molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
  (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
• malignant arrhythmia
• circulatory collapse
• placental abruption
• obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:

• future infertility
• permanent disability
• death.

YES, all of the above including DEATH certainly does "cramp one's lifestyle"...and YOU wouldn't want YOUR lifestyle cramped that way I bet???

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I doubt you would be heart broken over women suffering.

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A. NO, 99% are not always temporary.

B. it doesn't matter IF they are temporary they still exist.

C. DEATH isn't "temporary".


BUT I am NOT surprised how you denigrate and belittle what women go through, what you mother went through, to bring children into the world...

Pure misogyny.
IF you suffered any of those things at the hands of a "tenant" you would have the right to kill it to stop the harm.....you prefer WOMEN be harmed...

LOL, that is what REALLY bothers you , isn't it...women enjoying sex....and they do A LOT.... without YOU

Who TF are YOU to tell women what to do??? Meanwhile they do exactly as they please