"Help us god, help us Jesus!", cried the innocent children (....in vain.)

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  1. Archer0915

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    Let he who is without sin.
     
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    Yes....but he also said he didn't come to abolish the Law, just fulfill it.
     
  3. Archer0915

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    And he did as I explained earlier.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I take it you do not believe Jesus = God

    if you did, then you would believe everything in the 1st half said by God was also said by Jesus and visa versa

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    I honestly feel that a real in depth discussion on a bulletin board is pointless.
     
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    Many Christians don't realize how close their theology is to dualism.
     
  7. Gorn Captain

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    TWO "Gods" would explain the differences between the Old and New Testaments....unless you want to try "God changed His mind" (which opens a whole 'nother can of worms)
     
  8. Anobsitar

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    So don't believe in god and your problems are solved. But not everyone in the world has your problems.

    http://www.youtu.be/9ROhr3Mwmy4
     
  9. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    By definition they were evil, which is why they were killed. Truly innocent people don't die young (Job 4:7 CEV).

    On top of that some people resisted the evil man. That's a clear violation of what Jesus taught. So those people are also evil and will suffer the wrath of God.
    http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_teachings_of_jesus/on_self-defense/mt05_38.html

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew 7:21-27&version=CEB;CEV;MSG;NLT;NKJV

     
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    You never was a Christian otherwise you would know what you are speaking about. For example could I speak without any big problem with every Hindu, Buddhist or Muslim - or any other member of other serios religions - about the words of Jesus Christ that you subsumized under the expression "whatever". This words are:

    'Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. My Father's house has plenty of room; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going.' Thomas said to him, 'Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?' Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father except through me. If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.' http://www.youtu.be/Rfrm_2gIMYw

    This words are also importmat for the people in Newtown, because I feel sure. Jesus himselve will lead their children and women into the heart of god.
     
  11. FreedomSeeker

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    Let me translate the Bible into reality:
    "My Father's house has plenty of room, EXCEPT FOR STINKING ATHEISTS, JEWS, HINDUS, BUDDHISTS, JAINS, and all the "other", because my middle name is "hatred""

    "No-one comes to the Father except through me, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT ME, ME, ME! OH, SURE I COULD HAVE SAID 'NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THE *MORAL*', BUT I'M TOO SELFISH TO SAY THAT."

    Jesus is clearly a selfish prick.
    I was young when I left Christianity.
     
  12. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Imaginary beings can do whatever you want them to do. But that's not what the Bible says. Therefore, if you want Jesus to do something that's counter to the fairy tale you have created another Jesus character. The one in the Bible is a mass murderer and world destroyer.
     
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    The "stinking atheist" of your words ... that's you, isn't it? ... You are not even able to respect yourselve. ...

    http://www.youtu.be/AeVJ2wvPxDU
     
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    If you don't have any feeling, intuition and/or idea what you are speaking on what reason in the concrete context then this doesn't mean you have any guarantee to find a corn only because you are able to close your eyes.

    http://www.youtu.be/BuLiKz39ZOM
     
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    It isn't that he changes his mind but rather changes the minds of people. This process doesn't happen over night with human beings.
     
  16. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Do people share a unified brain?
     
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    God has a plan for us all
     
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    Yes. We are telepaths. Somehow we are also "the human being" - but I prefer to say "We are the universe" - because I have the feeling we are more. His love makes us to be more.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osceg-RdDS8
     
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    Most people in the world are non-Christians (including atheists), and Jesus condemns them to eternal torture, so clearly Jesus hates most people. So therefore he's not worthy of a sane person's worship.
     
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    in the old T, god wanted people stoned to death for picking up sticks on the weekend

    in the new T, god no longer wanted people stoned to death for picking up sticks on the weekend

    there are many examples of this, even more if you believe 'Jesus = God' as in one and the same person

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    What a luck that you are existing - you can make everything better now.

    http://www.youtu.be/YkKue_MEnkk
     
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    You do not know God or the nature of evil. That you think this way is no surprise, sad, but no surprise.
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The Old Testament says that the Law was BS to see how stupid they were if they followed it.

    Ezekiel 20:24-26 (CEB) =
    [SUP]24 [/SUP]because they didnÂ’t observe my case laws, they rejected my regulations, and they degraded my sabbaths while they kept looking to their parentsÂ’ idols. [SUP]25 [/SUP]I also issued regulations that were not good and case laws by which they could not live. [SUP]26 [/SUP]I defiled them with their very gifts when they offered up all their oldest children. They were supposed to be so horrified that they would acknowledge that I am the Lord.
     
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    I am aware. Tell me something. What is better,for God to tell people that they can own slaves and beat them as long as they don't die the same day or if there was no law at all ?
     

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