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"High taxes be damned, the rich keep moving to California"

Discussion in 'United States' started by carlosofcali, Mar 11, 2019.

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Notice there are no bureaucrats or tax collectors around that windmill.

    Seriously though this was hilariously cherry picked. Here I can do it in reverse.

    Texas

    http://www.seethesummit.com/s/cc_images/cache_950033946.jpg?t=1480697560

    California

    https://get.pxhere.com/photo/landsc...lian-landform-mountainous-landforms-19589.jpg

    Both are incredibly diverse states with beautiful and arid areas. Get over yourself.
     
    Steady Pie, Mar 12, 2019
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  2. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    Can't you do that now in Cali?
     
    Canell, Mar 12, 2019
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  3. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    They have their ways. Charitable trusts.
    https://www.wealthmanagement.com/estate-planning/charitable-trusts-doing-good-while-avoiding-tax-man

    and other loopholes
    https://www.moneytips.com/how-the-mega-rich-avoid-paying-taxes

    The rich are the ones who make the rules (laws), they aren't going to screw themselves.
     
    Tim15856, Mar 12, 2019
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  4. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In general you can offset any tax paid overseas with tax paid domestically.

    Of course, if you're living somewhere with lower tax rates than the US you'll still be paying at least US rates.

    Seems like a rort to me.
     
    Steady Pie, Mar 12, 2019
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  5. MMC

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    Los Angeles. Do I need to show Inglewood? Oakland? San Francisco?

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    Los Colinas Texas.

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    Oh and you can keep the California Girls.....I'll go with the Texas Women. Not to mention there are more blondes in Texas. [​IMG]
     
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    MMC, Mar 12, 2019
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  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt you could detect even 1/2 inch of sea level rise.
     
    Hoosier8, Mar 12, 2019
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  7. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Does it? Perhaps 60/70 years ago... Now, crowded, unlivable even. Killed by it's attractiveness. As so many things are and have been.
     
    drluggit, Mar 12, 2019
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    Maybe you would love Nebraska. We are in the top five highest property tax paying states in the nation. By your metrics California is a big loser. :)
     
    557, Mar 12, 2019
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  9. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You post them since you are the one making the claims.
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 12, 2019
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  10. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you're the one claiming it's an urban legend.

    On what basis do you make that claim?
     
    ocean515, Mar 12, 2019
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  11. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Socialism is an economic system where the government owns and operates means of production, and it is obviously not the case in California.
     
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  12. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone said California population is shrinking, and I corrected that with the fact that they just broke 40 million. You said its because relatives are moving in. How are you going to prove that?

    You offered to prove your claims, so why don't you do that?
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 12, 2019
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    Actually, you are right. Socialism is an economic system, not a political one. California is capitalist like the rest of the country. What he dislikes is the high level of government social spending and liberal political policies. But understand that these things can also harm a state if done to excess.
     
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  14. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah. The bulk of my post involved the issue of taxes and who pays them.

    You got tweaked over the first sentence.

    https://www.ppic.org/publication/undocumented-immigrants-in-california/

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article25940218.html

    Two factors largely explain the growth in California’s Latino population: immigration and high birth rates.
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    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article13521122.html

    California’s population will continue to grow over the next 45 years, but very slowly, a new projection by the state’s demographers reveals, with Latinos and Asian-Americans providing virtually all growth and the white population shrinking dramatically.

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    So much for your urban legend BS....
     
    ocean515, Mar 12, 2019
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  15. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont see anything about relatives, or things collapsing because people are not paying taxes. In the other hand, they just became the 5th largest economy in the world, ahead of countries like France and UK which have much larger populations. Urban legends......
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 12, 2019
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  16. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn't look.

    Not going to waste any more time.

    Have a nice day.
     
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  17. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I looked and saw you jump from "relatives are moving it" to fast birth rates. Tweak the story as you go......

    You have a nice day too Mr Urban Legend.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 12, 2019
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  18. ocean515

    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL

    Okie dokie.
     
    ocean515, Mar 12, 2019
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    Pipette8, Mar 12, 2019
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  20. TOG 6

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    TOG 6, Mar 12, 2019
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    Wow.
    The imbecility of your post cannot be overstated.

    California:
    California.png

    Texas:
    Texas.jpg
     
    TOG 6, Mar 12, 2019
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    Your personal experiences are irrelevant, and prove nothing.
     
    TOG 6, Mar 12, 2019
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  23. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Could there be other reasons for high income people moving to CA, like jobs, and/or proximity to billion dollar companies (potential business partners).
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 12, 2019
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    Ever heard of the Donner Party?
     
    Crownline, Mar 12, 2019
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  25. TOG 6

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    Likely.
    Does nothing to diminish what I said.
     
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