History is clear.

Nope, Wiki: Salk was immediately hailed as a "miracle worker" when the vaccine's success was first made public in April 1955, and chose to not patent the vaccine or seek any profit from it in order to maximize its global distribution.[

 

Yah. Very quite.

 

I suppose. I sure wouldn't want a lot of private police forces. It's bad enough with security guards.

 

They dominated some departments in some universities. They were present in many faculties, but not running the department.

They did. My uncle was a Russian expert for the USAF, then the CIA. We spoke in the 1970s about his fear of what could happen when the Soviet Union falls apart. His view was definitely when, not if.

They weren't taken all that seriously by most students.

Whoa! Some of the people who stayed provide our society with the intelligentsia we need. There was no reason to cede the university to those people.

 

private prisons is questionable, and replacing the fbi with modern day pinkertons would bot be very efficient use of law enforcement funds.

 

Well you can't fix stupid.

I share Dana whites opinion on this:

We are raising this next generation to be a bunch of pansies. Just raise your kid to be a savage in whatever it is they wanna do and they will run rough shod over them.

 

Yea, but it isn't a form of government. The form of government that manages a socialist economy can come in all sorts of flavors.

 

Toy are quite confusing charity and philanthropy to attempt to justify and defend socialism?

Yes I agree.

Those aren't the same thing.

 

Agreed.

Though, that's a social service. Socialism speaks to the means of production.

 

And in any one of those flavors, authority is given to the state in direct proportion to the lack of individualism and self motivation.

 

There are plenty of countries that have socialism and democratic forms of government.

The US has quite a bit of socialism.

 

bring it on.

teach your kids to be savages and we will have no choice but to attempt to civilize them (through sel, dei, or prison.)

"any barbarian can destroy civilization, but civilization can only be enjoyed by the civilized." flavius aetius

 

Savages in the sense that they will compete and steamroll their peers by not being a lazy entitled outraged cancer of society whom doesn't even know what their gender is.

 

Dude beginning with Wilson we began to move from a Democracy to a kleptocracy. Socialism streamlines the process and accelerates it. The great conceit of socialist planners is that they are smart enough to appropriately control everything when fact they don't know or just how much 'everything' there is and much of what little they do know they don't truly understand. And of course the real rub is that before the government can do something for someone they must first do something to someone else. There is no better method ever devised to divide a society and fracture it than to have the government be seen to take sides.

 

And who writes wiki? And given that the process of creating vaccines as salk did was first done by Louis Pasture a century or so earlier what was there to patent? You can't patent a disease, and you can't patent a process that's been in use for more than a century so what's left air?

 

If you think socialism can be done without government you understand neither.

 

There is no specific type of government required for socialism. It is ignorant to call socialism a form of government.

 

socialism does not require government. many religions, cults, and ad hoc groups function on a socialistic model.

 

Dude it is ignorant to believe that socialism isn't a government run economic system.

 

Yes, it is an economic system with some government management.

it is not a form of government.

 

Yes, it is an economic system with some government management.

it is not a form of government.

 

All those groups are voluntary associations and none of them attempt to supplant a free market economy and most of them wouldn't exist without it.

 

Do you think that the free market doesn't exist in a socialist economic system?

 

government police and mail service do not preclude free market security or delivery service. there is plenty of free market, which existed long before capitalism, in scandinavia, venezuela, or cuba.

 

Some my ass. It is almost entirely managed by the government either directly as in the Warsaw pact, China and Cuba and the SSR's of yesteryear or indirectly through a series ever more complex and arcane rules and regulations they essentially compel Mr businessman to become little more than just another level of government functionary and the one who catches the blame when the wheels run off the tracks.