HOBBY LOBBY owner 'installs' BIBLE curriculum in PUBLIC SCHOOLS in OK

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  1. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would be a lot more supportive if it WASN'T from the Green Family! Obviously, they have a very narrow idea of what "Christianity" entails, and they have no respect for those who may have other beliefs or broader beliefs.

    But what are you so obsessive about trying to "sign me in" for the Green Family?

    That is so weird!
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    My guess is that it will be an unpopular elective. College bound kids wouldn't have time for it. I know my sons' schedules could not accomodate it unless they wanted to give up band or orchestra.
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alright, so long as they are all electives. Heck, they should probably just have one "History of Religion" class and roll them all up into one.
     
  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just answered your own question.

    Precisely why you so emphatically feel the need to tell me why the Green family is evil.
     
  5. dairyair

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    As long as it gets taught we had slavery because it is ok in the bible, go for it.
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    agreed...

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    yep, don't forget teaching the full history... even the crazy stuff... would not want to leave anything out... especially the early Christians treatment of the Indians, Thanks Giving is the sanitized version... (covert and if that fails... kill)

    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/loving.html

    "Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And, but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriage. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
    -Judge Leon M. Bazile (January 6, 1959)

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  7. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where did I say they were "evil?" I didn't.
    But I don't trust them I find them to be hyper religious and hypocritical and I do not approve of their desire to use their money to push their "flavor" of Christianity (including all the bigotry and men made dogmas) on all of us, but especially our children.

    However, my opinion should be a moot point to you, and I find your obstination very strange!

    Enough. . . said.
     
  8. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it will probably get dropped from most schools for lack of interest.
     
  9. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the slave traders from Africa sold their fellow Africans as slaves because the bible told them to? Americans bought then for the same reason? What a ridiculous post. So long as you can take a shot at religion, who cares if it's idiotic.
     
  10. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because Catholic private educations are so unpopular?
     
  11. dairyair

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    I agree, your understanding of what was posted is ridiculous.
    Africans sold fellow africans for money, some maybe money and power. The owners, here in the USA, christians, felt it ok to OWN slaves. BTW - I am christian.
    And NO, the bible did not tell them to, the bible talks about slavery, slavery as a payment system. Since the bible says slavery is ok, many took it to be OK to own slaves. Read the bible before getting on that high horse.


    The Virginia Slave codes of 1705 further defined as slaves those people imported from nations that were not Christian, as well as Native Americans who were sold to colonists by other Native Americans or captured by Europeans during village raids.[11] This established the basis for the legal enslavement of any non-Christian
    foreigner.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States

    And if that isn't enough, maybe they can teach about christians and the witch hunts.
     
  12. perdidochas

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    You must not know much about how high school curricula are run. Most college bound kids these days only have one elective per year. I don't know of many students who will give up band or art for a Bible class. I just don't see it as a big deal because of that. If it becomes more than an elective, then I'll agree that the course needs to be stopped, but it's not going to be more than an elective, nor is it realistically going to be very popular.

    Catholic private educations are popular because of academic quality and rigor, not simply the religious instruction.
     
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    Because the people they are popular with are in those Catholic schools, not public school.
     
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    It could be popular with those planning on history or divinity majors. It does seem like a lot, but I could see schools adopting parts of the course as opposed to the entire program.
     
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    What if your religion is atheism?
     
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    I knew that once you mentioned that the Constitution was based on Judeo-Christian philosophy that the usual Atheist harpies would descend in force with their typical convoluted, ignorant and tortured 'logic.'
     
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    Good point. There have been lots of failed lawsuits against these type of things in the past. That is totally legal precedence working against you as well. (Leave it to lawyers to work both sides of every argument.)
     
  18. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So everybody who owned a slave was Christian? Was there some sort of meeting or announcement in the church's that encouraged slave ownership? Did one get a guaranteed spot in heave by owning slaves?

    Your position is ridiculous because it wasn't Christians who support slavery, it was humans.

    Its ridiculous that you attempt to use slavery to demonize christians. Want to blame Christians for the death of the Indians too?

    That is what is ridiculous.
     
  19. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok... fine. Your free to be an atheist. Done.
     
  20. dairyair

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    So you're dishonest. Go figure. I notice you didn't respond and ignored the link that showed Virginia had a law that non christians only could be slaves.
    Dishonest and ridiculous, a bad combination.
     
  21. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So... having a law in one state that disallows slavery of christian people is equal to the suggestion that Christianity is responsible for slavery.

    Pfft..

    You took a slap at christianity in a discussion where no such connection exists, and you got called on it. The link that you think validates your ridiculous proposition is a wiki entry on Slavery.

    This discussion on slavery was one thing without your dishonest attempts to slander christianity with absolute non-sense.

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    Stupid comment. Dumb. End of story.
     

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