Homosexual marriage

Personally I do not beleive in marriage in a religious sacred sense. There are too many points in the bible in which it contridicts the idea that marriage is sacred for it to be true.

For one, according to the bible, raping a unmarried and unengaged woman is not really rape. A man has to marry her and may her father the price of her dowry and that's it. He isnot punished in any way.

The bible treats marriage like a financial transation with the woman considered property of the men, sold by her father to her husband. That is not sacrament, that is slavery.

 

why not? procreation has nothing to do with marriage. the ability or intention to procreate is not required for marriage, so how does allowing gays to have the equal right to marry affect you, or anyone else?

 

It legitimizes aberrant behavior.

 

All kinds of "aberrant" behavior is legitimized in a free society. That is what makes it free.


If you want to life in a country that forces folks to behave according to religious tradition, go live in an Islamic country where Sharia law is the law of the land.


If you are only for freedom for things that you agree with .. then you are not for freedom at all.

I prefer the Constitution: individual liberty, limited state involvement in the personal lives of citizens, and freedom from religion.

 

There is a difference between legitimizing aberrant behavior and punishing what people do in private. I have nothing against homosexuals or fetishists doing whatever they want to do in private as long as it does not negatively affect or hurt anyone.

Most folks are negatively affected at the thought of homosexual marriage yet, it is being shoved down their throats by the tyranny of a minority.

 

what aberrant behavior? homosexuality has existed among humans as for the enitrety of recorded human history. as well as in tens of thousands of species of animal life.

 

LOL .. that is truly funny (1)

1) How are folks negatively affected by thoughts of homosexual marriage ?

2) How is homosexual marriage being shoved down the throats of hetero's ?

 

many people are negatively affected by the thought of interracial marriage. you don't have a constitutional right to not have negative thoughts.

 

Not many...that is liberal propaganda you have sucked on and swallowed.

 

And it has always been aberrant.

 

1) How are folks negatively affected by thoughts of homosexual marriage ?

2) How is homosexual marriage being shoved down the throats of hetero's ?

 

What is wrong RPA1 .. Can you not justify your claims ?

 

The government is not obliged to adhere to any notions of tradition, but rather to defend its citizens constitutional rights, in this case equal protection under the law. The arbitrary stipulation to gender in most states' statutes is patently discriminatory and unconstitutional.

Here's a better solution: get government out of the marriage business. It doesn't belong there in the first place. Every right and obligation conferred by civil matrimony can easily be accomplished through private contract. That is, IMHO, the true limited government solution.

Ironic that you would take the position that you do and then turn around and quote Ronald Reagan in your signature. He was correct when he said "when government expands, liberty contracts." I just wonder if you really believe that of it's just something to which you like to pay lip service.

 

Really? Just where does society get that right?

Right now the "shrill minority" has fewer rights than everyone else when it comes to entering a certain kind of civil contract.

You are surprised that victims of legal discrimination would have a problem with said discrimination?

I wouldn't say that. But I would say you have demonstrated little understanding of the principles upon which this country was built--namely equal protection under the law. Two people of the same gender entering the civil contract of matrimony harms you in no way, yet you feel justified in opposing the legal recognition of rights that already exist under our system of law. This is nothing more than an attempt to relegate your gay fellow citizens to second-class citizenship.

Why don't you give your fellow citizens a break who continue to be denied full access to the civic franchise by arbitrary stipulation to gender? The price of freedom is eternal vigilance and as citizens of a free land, it is in our own best interest to defend our precious and hard-won liberties where ever and whenever they are threatened.

 

Government should just get out of the marriage business altogether. But until that happens--which will be never--we still have the problem of equal protection under the law.

 

Excellent question. And here's my excellent answer: it should not.

 

You can't call someone a bigot for merely pointing out bigotry. Just sayin'

 

Once again, completely ignoring the very important distinction between the cultural tradition of "marriage" and the legal institution of civil matrimony.