Homosexuality is a Mental Disorder

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  1. SFJEFF

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    Sounds to me just like those who wanted women's medical records to see if she had been promiscuous so they could show the jury that a promiscouous woman can't be raped.


    You aren't from around there parts are you? All such records are protected by law and you can't go around and make doctors show all of their records to see if there might just be some record of them saying something like this.




    Since the man who is terrified that he is being 'hit' on by a gay man would have no idea whether or not this gay man had 'violently attacked other men' at the time of the attack, finding out afterwards could hardly be an excuse for his decision to beat a gay man senseless or shooting him, or stabbing him or dragging him behind a car, or tieing him up on a fence and leaving him to die of exposure.

    This claim is delusional. I would hesitate to call it dishonest- I think you really believe all of this bull crap but I notice you absolutely refuse to prove any of the assertions to you make. I think thats because you know you can't prove any of your claims. So dishonest? Maybe.
     
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    I am older, and live in San Francisco. The only times I have ever had any 'gay' advances on me was one time watching football in a gay bar, and that was in public having my ass grabbed. Somehow I survived this assault on my masculinity.

    As any woman will tell you, if that was an excuse to shoot men, there wouldn't be too many straight men left in the U.S.
     
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    Good point! I believe I would have killed at least two dozen men in my younger years! :wink: :roflol:
     
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    Because we, heterosexuals, do not promote heterosexual sex and marriage. . .as if it was a "better" thing?

    Have you ever heard of "equal rights" and "free speech?"
     
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    that reminds me:
    I wish I could remember- one European country was trying to make it illegal for men to fondle a woman's butt against her will.....as I recall it couldn't get enough votes to pass.

    Such is the double standard. Some people think they should be able to a shoot a gay man who pats them on the ass, while women are supposed to continue to accept that some pervert on the train can fondle them without fear of legal recourse.
     
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    That is NOT equal right under the law. . .so it would NEVER fly!
    But, I am glad you grew out of your "potty" obsession! That is a great improvement!

    Now, if we could only work on your obsession about Harvey Milk, we would be alright! :smile:
     
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    sure i have. does equal rights mean we have to call an orange an apple? i am for equal rights, not for considering two very different things to be equal
     
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    SFJeff, public restrooms are not the place for sex. But with defense getting medical records of dead gays, they can do so by court ordered subpoena. If in the medical records, the gay admits to his Dr. or psychologist that he has committed homosexual rape in bathrooms for which he wasn't arrested, then yes, a man who kills a gay in a public restroom after the gay committed indecent exposure has a credible argument he was acting in self-defense. The prosecution can even dismiss the charge. Because the defense will raise argument the gay was trying to do something more violent besides indecent exposure. It's self-defense & I would acquit if I were on that jury.

    BTW, gay/lesbian behaviors and sex changes are all comparable to drug junkyism. Incidentally a typical rerun is to talk of men making 'unwanted advances' to women. But in many cases, I've found that the women who say this are too ugly for most men to want. Such as Charlie Johnson, the Nebraska lesbian who said she was attacked by men in Nebraska which was proven false. Charlie Johnson is too ugly for most men.
     
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    Wrong. There are many men who get arrested, convicted & jailed for grabbing a woman's butt or boobs against will. If a gay grabs a man's butt or groin against will, then it's assault/battery minimum if intent isn't sexual. But a case again, can be made that a man who kills a gay after the gay grabbed the man's butt or groin against will was defending himself from homosexual rape the gay was trying to do. Homosexual Jerry Sandusky committed homolestation by 1st doing this.
     
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    But judges could give more punishment against sex abuse when it's gay/lesbian in nature. There are sentencing laws and if a gay gets 20 years for homosexual statutory rape while a straight gets 10 years for statutory rape (whether it's man on teenage girl or woman or teenage boy), then by sentencing guidelines that can be done. Harvey Bernard Milk by being shot & killed won't do any more statutory rapes. The Mods forbade me from using icons, as I wasn't allowed to post for several days for doing this, so it wasn't my call.
     
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    Well lets consider this:
    A man and a woman want to get married? They are denied by law from getting married because under the law they are considered 'apples' and 'oranges'.

    We changed that law because we believed that all men and all women should be treated equally under the law.

    I believe we should still.
     
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    What equal rights mean is that you must respect the rights of "the apple" as well as the rights of the "orange!"

    And what is so different about a man who likes men or a man who likes women, or a man who likes both men and women?

    Isn't he still a man? Why is it that you call what he does behind bedroom doors with another consenting adult of any sex "different?"

    Why should the LAW of the US be based on what happens between two consenting adults, or what should laws be based on the sex of an individual?" Is Citizenship dependent on sex?

    Are taxes based on sex. . .in ANY other category than "marriage?"
     
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    Well technically....let me put it another way....lots of straight people have sex in public restrooms. I don't want to shock your virgin eyes, but yep, its true. Straight people do have sex in public restrooms. I don't think they should be shot for it.


    I am sure that the defense would try to raise that argument, but seriously- is there any killing of a gay man that you wouldn't acquit for if you were on that jury?

    Prove it. On the face of it that statement is just idiotic.

    Men rape 90 year old grandmothers. Men rape infants. To say that any woman is 'too ugly for most men' is just an incredibly misyogynistic and ignorant statement. I really think you have never been to a nightclub in your life.

    Now about this "Charlie Johnson". I have never heard of her before- where do you come up with this stuff?

    So I googled "Charlie Johnson" Nebraska rape. Of course you had the wrong name so I had to really work to find the example.

    Of course there are lesbians who are raped:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-raped-alleyway-man-refused-accept-gay.html


    A teenage lesbian student on her way home from a night out was raped by a man who refused to accept she was gay, a court heard today.
    Daniel Fountain attacked the petite 19-year-old in an alleyway before punching her partner and another female friend who was with them, a jury was told.

    but in the homophobes world- this girl wasn't 'raped' she must have done something to provoke the poor guy.

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    We have this thing in the United States called the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    So no the judge can't.
     
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    We know from statistics that a woman is about 10 times more likely to be raped than a man. So I think we can agree then that a woman is at least 10 times more in danger from any man than a man is from a man.

    So do you agree then that any woman can argue if a man fondles her but on a subway car that she can shot him because she had a reasonable fear of being raped?

    Oh please enlighten us. Tell us how Jerry Sandusky started his molestation of children by groping some man in a restroom. I must have missed that part of the court hearing.
     
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    SFJeff, most rapists go after women between 18 to 35 years old with under 18 being the next common victims. After 40 the chances of a woman getting raped goes down & after menopause, the chances are almost none-there are few cases where women over 50 are raped. Rapists almost always go after women between 18 to 35 years old because that's who they're attracted to. Randy Thornhill & CT Palmer have studied rapists & I've been to rape trials. It's almost always young women who are raped. The lesbian eg. you gave is anecdotal because it's far more common for lesbians to have falsely accused men of rape though many lesbians are too ugly for men to want. With misogyny, you SFJeff think tubal ligations are Okay and tubal ligations are mutilating women.



    If the man who is fondling her is high on drugs, has violent history & or a recently paroled rapist, then it's more likely she will be acquitted if is tried-possible the prosecution won't try her if they don't think it's likely a jury will convict because defense will argue she was defending herself from something more violent such as rape, especially if the man has past rape convictions.

    With gay/bashings again, if a man kills a gay in a lot after the gay repeatedly proposed to him after the man said no and or after the gay pinched the man's butt or groin against the man's will (many gay bashings happen after the gay committed this assault/battery). Defense will say the gay committed crimes such as indecent exposure, assault/battery and so on. For the charge to be dismissed or for an acquittal to happen, the defense has to make a credible case that the gay was attempting something more violent. If the homosexual has a history of attacking other men in the lot after he harassed them & or if the gay's high on drugs such as Meth or cocaine, then a case can be made that the gay was trying to do something more violent as he had done to others before & or the unpredictability of the situation-jury decides if man used reasonable force.
     
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    http://www.news10.net/news/article/...harged-with-6-felony-counts-of-sexual-assault

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...it-seems-we-all-prefer-to-ignore-1408839.html

    1 out of every 6 American women have been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her life time.

    More elderly women are rape victims than men are raped in public restrooms.



    No its not 'anecdotal'- that was reporting from the trial.

    What you are accusing lesbians is pure conjecture- it doesn't even get to the level of anectdotal.

    I will point out once more that you have never proven any of your bizarre homophobic claims.


    From what I have seen you are the only one making that case. You seem obsessed with being able to prove that it is okay to kill gays.

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    Men will (*)(*)(*)(*) anything if they have enough drinks on board. There is no such thing as 'too ugly' for drunk men when the bar closes.

    Seriously you have never actually been to a club have you?
     
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    Prove any of your claims.

    You make a whole bunch of wierd, homophobic and misogynistic claims.

    Prove some of them.

    Lets start with the biggie- your claim that most assaults on gay men are a result of them making advances on straight men.

    Prove it.
     
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    SFJeff, you've said that you support a woman's right to get a tubal ligation and tubal ligations are misogyny as it's mutilation.

    There's no proof to the 1/6 statistic. They once said that only 2% of rape accusations are false, but that has been debunked that even some feminists such as Wendy McElroy have said false rape accusations are common. Craig T. Palmer & Randall Thornhill have studied rapists, wrote a book in 2000 about the Evolutionary history of Rape. 75%of women who are raped are under 30 years old, 10-12% of women raped are 30 to 35 years old, 7-9% of women raped are 39 to 39 years old. After 40, the chances of women going raped start to drop greatly & 5 to 8% of rape victims are 40 or older. Women who are menopausal (50 or older) make up 1 to 2% of rape victims. Rapists are most likely to go after women between 18 to 35 years old. World studies have proved this. The allegation that men and women have sex in bathrooms is rubbish as most bathrooms are for men or women only. If a man and woman have sex in a public park or in their car, then cops will arrest them for indecency if they are caught. Gays commit many homolestations in public restrooms against boys such as the homosexual who harassed Tucker Carlson in the DC restroom before Tucker Carlson defended himself by bashing the gay, tying the gay and then calling the cops who arrested the gay. Cops concluded Tucker Carlson acted in self-defense.

    It's right to be 'bigoted' against homosexuality and transexuality (which is worse) just as it's right to be 'bigoted' against cocaina smoking. Being homophobic is a good thing. It's undebatable truth that if a person's a victim of childhood sex abuse, then it's more likely he or she will do gay/lesbian conduct repeating what he learned-those who deny are either dishonest, delusional or both. Bringing gay/lesbian behaviors to 0 and abolishing sex change mutilations is what must be accomplished. If gays, lesbians and transexuals commit suicides, then gay/lesbian behavior & transexual rates went down.
     
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    Again it's assault/battery, harassment, indecent exposure though you use mild words such as 'hit on' 'advances' and 'patting.' Gay/lesbian groups and transexuals are not to be trusted. Methew Wayne Shepard 2 months before his death committed assault/battery on Cody bartender who reacted by decking Methew W. Shepard the drug junky.
     
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    Those cases are news because they're strange. There is such a thing as too ugly for drunk men to want. Most drunk men don't want menopausal women or lesbians. You can give anecdotal cases but I've been to rape trials and most rapists go after women between 18 to 35 years old with under 18 being the next common victims.

    With me saying it's Ok to kill gays, I don't want gays having sex in public restrooms and I don't want gays masturbating in front of others in parks. If a gay gets bashed after he masturbated in front of others, then the gay has himself to blame as he committed a crime which caused the reaction. But for people who are apologists for homosexual statutory rapist Harvey B. Milk, that's no big deal. Harvey B. Milk won't commit any more statutory rape on teenage boys as he was killed in November 1978.
     
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    Something new-gays, lesbians and transexuals have higher cancer rates and gay/lesbian behaviors linked to cancer though not admitted here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13295300

    Since gay/lesbian behaviors linked to more cancer, it's best for gays/lesbians to be celibate and gay/lesbian behaviors comparable to drug junkyism. Finally though 2 old cases other eg. that lesbians make false rape accusations and that most rape accusations by lesbians are false as lesbians look too much like men and lesbians are often not wanted by most men http://antimisandry.com/false-alleg...pe-frame-innocent-man-5864.html#axzz2KeSZ4h6F
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nt-stranger-rape-win-lover.html#axzz2KeTwW7vB
     
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    except they clearly arent. Affirmative action is in place, and not all humans are equal.
     
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    Right. We are NOT living in some lawless society, where we can make-up what is or is not legally appropriate. That is, whatever we do (in some cases neglect to do) can likely be scrutinized via the laws established.

    Anyone who thinks they can brutalize or take the life of another... and NOT have that act examined under existing 'law', is strangely ignorant or very misled.
     
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