How Christian Truth Became Hate Speech

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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    That’s nice. The passage wasn’t originally written in that language. What it meant to the Greek language writing author is what’s important here.
     
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    When the right of Christian believers to the free exercise of their religious beliefs in all aspects of their lives is assured this issue goes away. Until then, front and center it will be
     
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    Which of the ten commandments do you think should still be law? They were, after all, originally laws . . . largely punishable by death. Should blasphemy or following another religion be against the law? Should they still be punishable by death?
     
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    But you get to treat religious people like crap.
     
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    Maybe you should read. The Code of Hamarabe.
     
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    Can God forgive Trump when he has never asked God for forgiveness? I was always under the impression that when you truly accept God you realize that you are sinful and pray to God for forgiveness. If you never ask for forgiveness have you truly accepted God? I don't know the answer but I am going to pose this question to my brother-in-law who is a pastor.
     
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    What should Trump ask for forgiveness FOR? $2 gas? No new wars? 1.6% inflation? Law and Order? Energy Independence? Secure borders? Lack of fentanyl deaths? Plentiful baby formula? Operation Warp Speed? Ending North Korean nuclear testing?
    What exactly should Trump ask forgiveness FOR? I don't see it.
     
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    You mean Hammurabi? I've read the Code of Hammurabi. I asked you about the 10 Commandments, which you referenced. But your unwillingness to answer basic questions is very enlightening.
     
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    Cheating on his wives? Cheating his customers? Stealing from charity? Constant lying?

    Serious question: have you EVER met a Christian before? Christians say that EVERYONE has something to seek forgiveness for.
     
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    How did you manage to get that from what I said. You are an expert at pulling stuff out of your butt to attribute to others. While I don’t believe that any arrangement other than the union between one man and one woman is a genuine marriage, I never advocated gay unions be illegal. Gay people can certainly seek out people willing to provide whatever services needed to have whatever ceremony they want. They just need to not coerce believers into supporting such an event against their religious beliefs.
     
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    I'm sorry that you think that free speech is "coercion." Why should it be illegal for gay people to try to persuade "believers" into not being *******s to them?
     
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    Maybe you should ask your Pastor or Priest that question. Forgiveness is a fundamental part of Christianity.
     
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    Trump's personal life is none of my business. If he keeps my family safe and able to be prosperous, I don't care if he has an affair with an aardvark.
     
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    And you speak for none since you denied even being one here. You have less than zero say as to people who speak for something you are not.
     
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    As our savior and the source of Salvation and eternal life for those who believe and worship Him.
     
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    I never said anything about his personal life. Trump came out on the record as saying he has never asked God for forgiveness. In Christianity we are all sinners. I was told that to be forgiven by God we had to truly accept God into our hearts and to ask him to forgive us for our sins. My question is how can God forgive someone if they have never asked for forgiveness? You went off on a snarky reply and started talking about inflation etc... Well most Christians did not cause inflation but we still pray for forgiveness.
     
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    That's HIS business. Had absolutely NOTHING to do with keeping my family safe and allowing us to prosper... which he did.
     
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    Why is him keeping his family safe YOUR business?
     
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    Jesus never sinned and always condemned it. He was with people who were sinners but he never ever condoned a single one of the sins. He would not have in any way participated in any sin or helped one who was donning to sin. It was always go and sin no more.
     
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    Actually there is…
     
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    Then you are blaming the wrong person. @XXJefferson#51 brought up Trump, saying God would forgive him. I simply asked can God forgive someone that has never asked for forgiveness. It was a serious question.
     
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    Me asking not to be enslaved into your bigotry and coerced into acting against my religious beliefs on your behalf is not forcing my belief on anyone. I’m the one asking to be left alone by the god haters.
     
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    No one is coercing you to do anything. If you want to be left alone, you can refuse to engage. You can't force others not to communicate.
     
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    You should try loving gay people in the same way you love Donald Trump then. Because Donald Trump seems to get nothing but love despite his obvious transgressions and gay folks seem to get nothing but hate despite having done nothing but be gay.
     
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    Trump isn’t the issue here. I don’t care what gays do in their own bedrooms. I will not let go of the issue of their coercion of believers into participating in the honoring of their sinful relationships
     

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