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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    ... anarchism and atheism?

    It seems that there is some relationship between the two by definition.

    "an·ar·chism (nr-kzm)
    n.
    1. The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive and undesirable and should be abolished.
    2. Active resistance and terrorism against the state, as used by some anarchists.
    3. Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority: "He was inclined to anarchism; he hated system and organization and uniformity" (Bertrand Russell)."

    "atheism
    the absolute denial of the existence of God or any other gods. — atheist, n. — atheistic, adj.
    See also: God and Gods

    -Ologies & -Isms. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved."


    "god
    1. God
    a. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions."

    definitions taken from www.thefreedictionary.com

    Also, are some atheists driven by theopathy?
    theopathy
    religious emotion or excitement caused by contemplation of God. — theopathetic, — theopathic, adj.
     
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    MAYTAG Active Member

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    Since so many atheists are liberals who support big government, I would guess the two are not related at all.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    Can I take this to mean that theists support absolute dictatorships and monarchies?
     
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    Sounds like the opposite of what Inc is proposing is what we find in reality. I guess this demonstrates how useless semantics is.
     
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    There are other forms of control beyond God...
     
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    Not very. Most atheists that I know are fully enamored with state power. They've replaced a deity with the state and a church with the collective. One is far more likely to find Christian anarchists, I think, as they are more likely to accept Jesus' teaching to avoid resisting evil with force (ie. government power.)
     
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    Other than theocracy i don’t think you have to oppose any kind of government because your atheist
     
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    When it comes to the bible thumpers only in the grandest sense
     
  9. Incorporeal

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    You are free to assume anything that suits your fancy. Of course, just because it makes you feel good, does not necessarily make it good for anyone else.
     
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    Which specific definition of 'beyond' are you referring to when used in the context that you have displayed above?

    "be·yond (b-nd, b-ynd)
    prep.
    1. On the far side of; past: Just beyond the fence.
    2. Later than; after: beyond midnight.
    3. To a degree that is past the understanding, reach, or scope of: an evil beyond remedy.
    4. To a degree or amount greater than: rich beyond his wildest dreams.
    5. In addition to: asked for nothing beyond peace and quiet.
    adv.
    1. Farther along or away.
    2. In addition; more: wanted her share but nothing beyond.
    n.
    1. That which is past or to a degree greater than knowledge or experience; the unknown: "Sputnik, the first satellite to enter the great beyond of space" (Dale Russakoff).
    2. The world beyond death; the hereafter."

    Please explain your choice.
     
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    So then if the Second Coming occurs are you going to be asking for a Constitution restricting the power of God and for open elections of government or are you going to embrace the absolute dicatorship of God?
     
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    Have you ever not tied down a thread with your semantic bull(*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
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    Your repeated use of "more likely" indicates that you are holding a degree of uncertainty about your statements else you are simply admitting that you have no statistics to support your claim(s).
     
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    Who started this thread? Well of course... I did. Subsequently I can have the information in it that I desire. If you don't like the thread, then visit one that is more in accord with your lack of understanding of the science of semantics.
     
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    I'm a Libertarian atheist.. Or an atheist Libertarian. Not sure how best to order that!
     
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    Same here.
     
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    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Then you admit that you have a political agenda as an atheist? Great. Good to know that you pushing a cause.
     
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    Beyond as in, God is not the only form of control. I sincerely doubt that you couldn't understand that based on context.
     
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    Nope. I already consider my being as a citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven. Why on earth would I attempt to desire secularism within that Kingdom?
     
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    Same here.
     
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    So you are in support of absolute dicatorships. Good to know.
     
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    Semantics is hardly a "science". Its the way that you spew bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in order to digress from actually making an argument.
     
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    You should remember that the only thing atheists have in common is their lack of belief in a god or gods. There is no reason to assume when you meet an atheist that he or she will be an anarchist, a conservative or a liberal in any way shape or form, or even interested in politics at all for that matter, until they state otherwise.

    For example, most people assume when you tell them you are Christian that you must be a conservative too. Not true, my mother believes in God and has absolutely no interest in politics. lol
     
  24. Incorporeal

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    The same rule or process should be applicable to Atheists and other non-theists. Just because you meet a Christian does not necessarily mean that he/she is an idiot, moron, retarded, etc. Yet there are non-theists who do exactly that... label Christians as described above. Why is it OK for them to commit such acts, yet it is seemingly impermissible for me or other theists to assume the notion that atheists are anarchists. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
     
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    Yes, that is exactly why I use terms such as "more likely." For instance, those who are pretentious and pedantic are more likely to post things like what you posted, but I have no statistics to support my claim.

    My statement was entirely valid. As a voluntaryist, I find that most of the voluntaryists with whom I come into contact are Christian. I made no claim in my post that my experience is anything other than subjective. Does that offend you such that you must attempt to shut down my claim with such a ridiculous, overbearing response?
     

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