How do I convert Jewish friends to Christianity?

TBH I find this OP offensive.
It is within the rights of every person to decide his/her own faith.
You sound like some Mullah who thinks it is fine to convert the non Muslim to save him/her from the fires of hell.
Tell you what ...maybe if you promised 72 virgins in heaven you will have better luck.

 

Just not in any way you can demonstrate.

 

So tell them about God's last prophet Muhammad, saws.
God will both, you and them, guide you to accept Islam.

 

Isaiah 53 describes a Saviors(Jesus Christ) life and suffering, the lost state of mankind, our acceptance of his sacrifice and our conversion as his seed.

 

And this is why freedom of religion doesn't exist in France.

 

I beg your pardon?
Would you care to illuminate your ignorance and explain this?

 

One should have a right to be offended. That right should not dictate the free expression of others, unless it is outright harassment.

 

exactly, and not all Jewish people are Jews, it gets confusing

 

In France one has the right to be any faith one chooses.
And offense taken is protected in law if the offense is deemed to be discriminatory, harassment, prejudicial or a hate crime.

Bob Newhart is living up to his name as a comedian. However telling fibs is not funny. I await his defense with interest.

 

It gets confusing for Jews too.
Enter "who is a Jew" into your search browser and you get an array of different definitions, from rabbinic to loosely cultural and even to political. There was some discussion when Soviet Jews wanted to go to Israel and claim the privileges those Jews already there got.

 

What is expressed in the thread title is the egoistic desire to succeed in convincing others of one's position. While that might be acceptable for selling cars, etc;, it has nothing to do with the essential messages of such concepts as Buddhism or Christianity. To understand Jesus is to understand that only deeply personal revelation qualifies as acceptance of the message. Everything else is hearsay and, thus, shallow at best and probably worthless.
One can share with others one's thoughts and feelings, but no one converts another to Christianity. The personal experience of the truth of Christianity converts. Without that, only outward appearance changes. Simply insisting that it is the truth understandably pushes people away, especially those educated in sophisticated faiths.
In any case, it is hardly for us to presume that our conception of "saved" conforms wholly to to what is holy.

 

While I personally cannot accept faith/religion as necessary to a life, I see this post as a real understanding of what faith is.

I can only add that IMO there are many equally justified and acceptable paths to the same answers.

 

Convert to Wicca! The Summerlands also offers an eternal life of harmony beyond this miserable world, all without having to deal with others of your faith telling you you're wrong in the details of how you follow it.

 

There is no One True Way.

 

Interesting article.. didn't get through all of it but enough to get main idea .. and it makes sense ..

We can talk about the concept of "Hell" - "Eternal Torment in the Afterlife" as existing prior to Christianity .. but this is not what Early Christians would have believed as they were Jews ..and Judaism did not believe in the eternal torture in the afterlife narrative.

Zoroastrianism is the earliest that I know of which has the concept of Eternal Torture incorporated into religious belief.

The Egyptians for example had the concept of Maat --- at the end of days your deeds were weighed on the scales of Justice -- if found to light you were fed to the monster .. and that was it - no stories about what happened to you after that.

In this respect Religion is a useful control mechanism .. used by near every civilization - was in part the "Secret knowledge" of the elite .. passed down from one generation to the next.

Over time -- was noticed that as you increase the "Fear Factor" .. you increase the control . Scare folks enough about the afterlife .. and they will behave better in this life .. makes sense .... and its why this narrative stuck.

After constantine is when you have the introduction of such "Secret Knowledge" into Christianity .. and was a resounding success .. different from the past however .. where deeds determined your fate .. Christianity did a little twist .. Not only might you suffer for your deeds .. but just lack of "Belief" could send you to the nasty place.

Muhammad copied the Christian Formula .. Same origin Story .. just a different prophet .. but also the method ... Muhamad ramped up the "Fear factor" to new hights .. do this and suffer.. do that and roaste in the eternal fire .. every second page .. fear fear fear..

 

The OP doesn't get it that a Jewish person does not have to choose between being Jew or Christian, when they can be both. My aunt married a man who was a Christian, a Jew and an Arab and later they both became Australian citizens. A Jew who believes in Jesus is a Messianic Jew.

The Bible actually teaches that Gentiles were crafted into the Jewish tree and live off of the same sap.

 

They seem to have a different opinion.

 

Aquarius said: ↑
You stand nothing to gain by converting to Judaism or atheism. Being baptized and accepting Jesus in your heart can lead to an eternal life of harmony beyond this miserable world.

Oh you are going to be so disappointed.

However, in the here and now, let's change "Judaism and atheism" to "black and "yellow" and then stand back and tell me that isn't about as racist as you can get.
I don't hold with the great replacement theory of racial dominance through migration but what is this if not the same thing in religion?

 

It is interesting, particularly as far as language is concerned. A lot of people take the accuracy of the language in the translations of scripture and doctrine that they are reading as cavalierly as Jerome and Augustine did in writing it. For example, in Augustine's case:

And speaking of Augustine and Paul, I've always been amused with Erasmus' sentiment that "It is only fair that Paul should address the Romans in somewhat better Latin".

While I might find that amusing, I recognize - as Erasmus did - that it is no small matter, and some have argued that Augustine introduced two doctrines - original sin and eternal damnation - that profoundly altered the teaching and direction of Christianity. That would also explain why modern scholars are taking another look at things like Pelagius' "heretical" beliefs/teachings about 'original sin'. Perhaps, it was Augustine who was the heretic (?).

 

The correct answer is: if you happen to know a Jewish person who practices his faith and has read much of the Old Testament and you have lots of time you can slowly walk him through passage after passage that proves that Jesus is the Messiah. He should agree.
If you have to move fast the simplest message works for all. The only forgiveness from sin is faith in Christ.

 

That is only true if you are talking about Jew by heritage. I'm not convinced that is what the OP is talking about, although I am also not convinced that he has a concept of the difference between the heritage and the faith. A person who is Jewish by faith cannot also be a Christian since the two religions differ on the major point of the Messiah. That said, there is no reason that there cannot be a Christian denomination that is mostly Jewish in structure, but with the major difference in that Jesus was the Christ, instead of there being no Messiah yet.

 

Not for any Biblically literate Jew. Christians have to jump through some serious mental gymnastics to try to claim that the "Old Testament" verses back up their cause.

 

The presence of a God amongst man has been justified by his ability to correct sin, since the beginning of belief in a superior being.
When man was a hunter, he would ask for a kill. If there wasn't one, they thought their god was punishing them so they sacrificed something to be cleansed from the sin and get the God's help.
This continued into hunter gatherer society and they used to even sacrifice people as a gift to their source of success. They were cleansed.
Later the Christians turned the idea into "eating the body and drinking the blood" of a sacrifice, now a cracker and a taste of wine. Both essential to life...bread and liquid. So christians too sacrifice the "son of God, able to cleanse man of sins forever, because he is gods closest association.
The same idea of "forgiving sins and reconciling man to God ( the covenant) has been told repeatedly. Only the names have been changed.
It isn't a bad story and serves a purpose, but the Christian version is in a direct line to the beginning of a conscious relationship with a positive helpful protective force against the bad forces which causes bad things to happen and when we lean towards it, sin, we have to be forgiven to be readmitted into the family of the positive. That is through the essential symbolic life of the son of the God.

 

Some have had a revelation that Jesus WAS the messiah, and they have opted to disagree with the rabbis on that matter.

 

Yes, Messianic Jews. We've noted this several times now. Jews by heritage who are Christians by faith. They are not Jewish by faith.