How do I convert Jewish friends to Christianity?

I love Jewish people and do not want them to burn in hell for rejecting Jesus Christ as their savior.

It upsets me as a Christian knowing good men and women who are not saved go to hell. Yet monsters repent and are giving forgiveness.

That said I understand why this is, you can’t reject people because that is elitist but people change.

I just do not understand why jews do not just become Christian, we have their Torah as the Old Testament so they keep their culture in tact and are given eternal life.

 

Using the threat of hell will very rarely, if ever, work. Nor will trying to quote the Tanakh (the Torah is only the first five books; the Tanakh is the entire "Old Testament" - Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim), at least not for a practicing Jew who is well-read. Any Jew who is familiar with Isaiah, for example, is going to immediately shut off when you try telling him that chapter 7 is about the Messiah/Jesus.

In the few cases I've heard of where a practicing Jew converts to Christianity, it was because of some kind of "personal experience." That or they weren't very familiar with the Tanakh and managed to be convinced by various misreadings of verses.

Edit - I take it back, there's an even more common case than the above where I've seen Jews convert: for marriage.

 

for the same or similar reasons you refuse to become jewish, or atheist.

 

You stand nothing to gain by converting to Judaism or atheism. Being baptized and accepting Jesus in your heart can lead to an eternal life of harmony beyond this miserable world.

 

You seem to be leaning hard into what's called Pascal's Wager. It's heavily logically flawed and doesn't really work for converting people. It is only something that people who have already converted use.

 

sure its pretty harmonious after youre dead and 'beyond' this miserable world with no one to argue with or against you.

 

How is this, no matter what you do, who you are (you could be a complete outcast/pariah, ugly, stupid, awkward, poor), etc you will always be loved by Jesus Christ.

 

Religion is all about what you believe in, and have faith in. If you don't believe that Jesus was anything more than a mortal man, then converting to Christianity would be stupid and go against what that person truly believes in.

 

Beliefs and people change. Christianity used to be viewed as a cult and Christian’s hunted down like prey.

 

I would like to convert Christians to atheism. Muslims, too. It would bring a lot of peace to the world.

 

The outspoken ones probably do tend to be like that. Outspoken Christians tend to be annoying, too.

 

Have you ever stopped to consider the fact that you've met many, many atheists in your lifetime who just didn't tell you they were atheist?

If I judged all Christians based on the ones I was raised around, I'd never listen to a word any of them had to say. And which of the following is more of a "smug POS" thing to believe?

Atheists: "Theists are wrong."
Christians*: "Non-Christians are wrong and will be tortured for eternity if they don't come over to my side. This eternal torture is ultimately justified and praiseworthy."

I personally can't imagine a worse afterlife than that which is proposed by Christians*. Your best case scenario is to be whisked off to a "paradise" where you will (assuming you aren't psychopathic) be eternally tortured by the knowledge that the vast majority of souls to have ever existed, including those you've personally loved and cared for, are being eternally tortured.

If Christians* are right, there is no such thing as heaven for me. And, frankly, I'm not sure if heaven or hell would be worse.

*Note for others: I know not all Christians believe in eternal torture for non-believers. I'm talking about the ones who do.

 

Then I'm afraid you haven't met many atheists. Either that or you aren't being intellectually honest.

Forced interracial marriage? Oookay.

Reading the Bible is a big part of why I left Christianity and later became an atheist.

And since I added this as an edit to the last post while you were responding, I'll mention it again here:

I personally can't imagine a worse afterlife than that which is proposed by Christians*. Your best case scenario is to be whisked off to a "paradise" where you will (assuming you aren't psychopathic) be eternally tortured by the knowledge that the vast majority of souls to have ever existed, including those you've personally loved and cared for, are being eternally tortured.

If Christians* are right, there is no such thing as heaven for me. And, frankly, I'm not sure if heaven or hell would be worse.

 

You don't, unless they want to convert.

"Burn in hell"?

Personally, I think that God would find your perception of Him as someone who would use His children as firewood insulting. Didn't Jesus tell you that He is a God of love and life and forgiveness?

Who or what convinced you to believe otherwise?

Here are some articles you might be interested in reading. If you're going to base your beliefs/faith on the Scripture you're reading you had best care about the language and translations you're reading in that scripture. Unfortunately, some of the people who have translated it, most notably Jerome of Stridon, did not, which is why Erasmus took up his own translation a thousand years later.

Hell – Part 1: A “Biblical” Staple The Bible Never Actually Mentions
http://www.brazenchurch.com/hell-in-the-bible/

Hell – Part 2: Why The Lake of Fire, Lazarus & Gnashing Teeth Can’t Conjure Up Eternal Torment
http://www.brazenchurch.com/hell-2-lake-of-fire-lazarus-gnashing-eternal-torment/

How & When The Idea of Eternal Torment Invaded Church Doctrine
https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/ho...-torment-invaded-church-doctrine-7610e6b70815

 

"Miserable world"?

How can you spit in the face of God and His creation like that?

 

I am glad I read the Bible. I am glad I was saved and learned we are all special in Gods eyes and all loved.

Atheists rejecting unconditional love and choosing their elitist life makes me cringe. I swore after becoming Christian that I would use every fiber of my being to protest evil and encourage good.

I got an IQ test btw and have a 112 or 116 I can’t remember so I am in the average range. I am good though and they do not realize I can talk to people and relate to normal people. Good will engulf their hatred and they will be the pariahs of society.

 

"the globalist communist anti Christian anti white media" = the American and western secular version of the simplistic good vs evil narratives to which theists generally subscribe.

 

You gain nothing by taking on false beliefs about immortality and making yourself miserable trying to convert others to the same false beliefs.

 

I don't know if this is a serious post, but there are Christian Jews. They are called messianic Jews, and Jesus was first if their kind, and his disciples followed.

 

What messiah? You do know that Christ was invented by Romanized Jews after the Romans razed the temple and destroyed Temple Judaism with it, dontcha?

 

Your words are just dripping with love and happiness

 

Don't we all? I mean, if we're all sinners then we all have immoral tendencies.

 

Some people still believe that its a cult. Millions if not billions of people also believe that other belief systems and Religions are a better path to follow. Just because you think you’re on the proper path doesn’t mean anything to those that are on a different path. They believe in their Religion or path just as much as you believe in yours.

 

If the love is unconditional, then why are we "monsters" for not being converted?

And, again, I can't imagine anything more miserable than the afterlife you propose. There can be no eternal happiness for me in that scenario. Nor can I see how anyone who is capable of empathy/agape could be eternally happy in such a scenario. God would essentially have to spiritually lobotomize us.

 

Whenever I’m asked why I’m not longer a Christian this is the main dilemma I had. There’s no real moral accountability in Christianity. The belief that good people are going to go to hell for simply not believing in something is antithetical to an all perfect, all loving, and all just God. And the only answers given are either we’re all evil in gods eyes nonsense or who can understand God which is just punting the issue and putting your head in the sand.