How do I convert Jewish friends to Christianity?

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL - Do you honestly believe all Christians take the Book of Genesis literally, Ron?

    If you believe that you might be surprised to find that all of them don't believe in predestination and Hell, either...:eek:
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is Christian canon, critical and core to their beliefs, that ALL mankind has inherited the sins of Adam, and therefore doomed to Hell regardless of their own personal actions. That is why ALL mankind must accept Jesus as their savior or they will go to Hell.

    sorry if I know more about Christianity than you
     
  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't. Your monolithic view of Christianity is proof of that.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    which branches of Christianity dont believe in Original Sin?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The inherited sin nature is explained in Book Of Romans, - in the New Testament.
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its central to Christianity.

    without Original Sin, mankind is not doomed to Hell, and therefore does not require Jesus' salvation
     
  7. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, its why Jesus came here. The entire Gospel, and the whole New Testament revolves around it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah, and its utter crap.

    hence I will never become an Xtian
     
  9. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked you a question - Do you honestly believe all Christians take the Book of Genesis literally?

    As for your question, look it up. You won't have to look far to find a branch that rejects the doctrine, and individual Christians have rejected it going back to the days of Pelagius, if not further.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i know many Jews are infact Atheist, it doesnt mean that Judaism=Atheism
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do I convert Jewish friends to Christianity ?

    ~ You don't ...
     
  12. Aquarius

    Aquarius Well-Known Member

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    I forgive all those who wronged me. Even if they are not sorry, I imagine them as being sorry and forgive them.

    I forgive you all, Jesus Christ is in my heart.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    then why do you want to sterilize Liberals?
     
  14. yardmeat

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    It isn't "wronging" you to disagree with you. If it were, you'd be wronging us by disagreeing with us. Doesn't the Bible have something to say about splinters in eyes?
     
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    Aquarius Well-Known Member

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    I just know I forgive and look away from the past. It’s fundamentally a Christian idea to not get revenge.
     
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    Isaiah 53
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    The only sin we inherit from Adam is mortality/death. But we are accountable for our own sins. Jesus sacrifice answered the demands of the law for a sinless offering. Then by taking his body back up he brought about the overcoming of death and the power of the future resurrection and our immortality. By repenting, baptism and accepting his offering, we are washed of our personal sins. There is nothing twisted about it. It is orderly and logical. God is merciful.
     
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    How have you been wronged here?
    You, as an individual Jew can believe anything you want, but Judaism certainly believes in afterlife aka olam habah, including sheol and Gehinom.

    Believe what you wish: Two Jews have three opinions.

    You, as a Mormon, believe in universal salvation and most of Christianity disagrees with that.
     
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    is that in the Torah or Talmud?
     
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    Unless one doesn't believe... then one will be punished for eternity

    but don't worry, one could not enjoy heaven if they remember that, so god will brainwash them into forgetting that their loved ones will be punished for eternity

    "It upsets me as a Christian knowing good men and women who are not saved go to hell. Yet monsters repent and are giving forgiveness."

    God will brainwash the monsters too, they will be good and no one in heaven will remember they were ever bad

    is sad for those good people being tortured for eternity in hell though - but God is good, at least that is what you need to believe to be spared that eternal punishment
     
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    What makes you think you can save the CHOSEN People?

    You should be upset you are not in the chosen religion.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am Jew, and I dont want your so-called "salvation".

    thanks, but no.
     
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    You have a major misconception error going on here. Any religion is a matter of faith and what the person believes. It's not changing political parties, which you can do with a simple mail in form. Simply saying they are Christian and claiming they have converted, does not mean that they have. They have to feel it and believe it. This is also assuming that you are talking Jews religiously, and not "racially". There are those who are Jewish by heritage but Christian by faith. There is even a group called Jews for Jesus for these people.

    And in the end, it is much better that they come because they actually believe, not because of pressure. Otherwise it is not a true belief and then they will, per your beliefs, go to hell anyway. Besides, what kind of loving God would not have a way for all who are truly good to come Home to Him? Just because a path is not obvious to us in the here and now, it does not mean it does not exist. I honestly hold that all who are good will go Home because being good is following His actual word and not what some other (supposedly) Christians say His word is.

    And in answer to the original question, the best way to convert anyone is to simply be a good person and Christian and hold to your values, without trying to push them on anyone or force them into other's lives via law. Don't try to convert them. Let them want to be converted by your example. The more your push the more they will pull away. That is what the warning about being stumbling blocks is all about.
     
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    Sorry if you don't. It is true that many denominations believe that, but not the whole of Christianity. There is a reason why there are so many denominations, and that detail is one of many that has, and probably will, caused many of the divisions.
     
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    That would be the difference between the Jewish heritage, and the Jewish religion. Anyone who is Jewish by faith is not an atheist. Being Jewish by heritage does not guarantee any given religion or lack thereof.
     

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