How do you feel about Israel?

Not gaza, maybe Israel. certainly not gaza.

But what's gaza got to do with this? there's no ongoing killing off of palestinians to cleanse them in gaza.

 

Zionists are worse than National Socialists.

At least NS Germany fought those capable of fighting back, and then some.

Nor did they delcare war, war was on them. I actually sometimes wonder, post war propaganda notwithstanding, if the world really would defintely have been a worse place, 70yrs or so on, if the war had not been delcared on them, at all. When i see the death toll, and look at the world as it is today, it is really hard to see how things could be more dysfunctional and low than they are, globally, and on so many levels. Was it really a price worth paying, for all those good men that were taken out of the gene pool?

However, history records that while Germany did not want a war, it most certainly was 100% right to be wary of the pervasive nature of Communism. Of COURSE they did not want German being take over by Communists, god, look what Communists DID, collectively, far worse than NS Germany.

Notwithstanding, when it came down to it, there was no fear from Germany to fight to many able opponents, and they nearly did win.

Israel, punk ass little state that it is, they have occupied, stolen, murdered, lied, subverted, spied on, and been the agitator in chief, but if there was a serious opponet, and I mean a serious opponent, they would be demanding in that whiney voice, that their golem fight it all.

 

Ace.

That will give you a great insight into Gaza.

 

I don't recall the gypsies, gays, disabled, and jews being able to put up much of a fight when they were about to hauled away to the camps...

A world in which nazism and fascism, the enemy of capitalism, conservatism, demoracy, liberalism and western values in general, were still strong would be a much worse place. Besides, there would've been war sooner or later anyways, fascism and nazism in particular are defined in part by their agressive nationalism and imperialism. And there's still plently of good men left, don't worry. And overpopulation and that, you know. Not to be an arse but war kinda good at lowering the numbers, if one ignores the baby boom afterwards of course.

What records shows that? Germany didn't want war? Maybe they shouldn't have invaded poland then for a start. I'm genuinly intressted here btw, nazi germany is quite intressting. It's foreign policy, what would've happened if they'd won, and their plans to relocate the races and that; it's particularly intressting. any inressting information would be welcome. And I agree that communism is worse then nazisma dn fascism by it's results. I'm not sure I can say the same about it morally, but definitively result-wise.

Indeed they did. Congratulations to the germans for being able to hold their ground against nearly the whole world on two (+ minor) fronts. Germany is a strong nation indeed, industrious and numerous. let's pray they don't feel for war again though.

Not much to say about that last paragraph though.

 

Oh, invaded Poland my nose.

The TOV was absurdly punative and created to be broken!

It was always going to be. Moreover, Communist Russia ALSO invaded Poland.

Here is an example of what they did, then tried to blame it on Germany, even though it was NS Germans that first reported it.

[video=youtube;5Y8VNDOBGJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8VNDOBGJM[/video]

 

Oh, invaded Poland my nose.

The TOV was absurdly punative and created to be broken!

It was always going to be. Moreover, Communist Russia ALSO invaded Poland.

Here is an example of what they did, then tried to blame it on Germany, even though it was NS Germans that first reported it.

[video=youtube;5Y8VNDOBGJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8VNDOBGJM[/video]

 

What does TOV stand for?

I hate communism and the soviet union with a passion, I won't defend any of their actions. I'm glad their empire collapsed and I whish non-existance upon each and every follower of that horrible ideology.

and I can't see the video, it's just a black rectangle. But I assume it's about the poles provoking the germans? intressting, do go on. Maybe write what they did instead.

 

Really, so kicking out hundreds of thousands of Arabs from their homes is not ethnic cleansing; and bulldozing Arab homes and building illegal settlements on occupied land is not land theft?!

That's how you define it.

Evidence? I have some of Israeli soldiers using civilians for cover:

http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/26/israel-soldiers-punishment-using-boy-human-shield-inadequate

http://postimage.org/image/vcwwodv01/ (props to Marius).

War, deal with it.

Lol, the hypocritical West just love to cry about 'human rights' when their own government don't even bother to follow its tenets.

 

Then live there and report back how cozy and safe you feel. I cannot wait the inside knowledge that hasn't been forthcoming so far.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles

 

This is outlandishly irresponsible.

 

All on your lonesome you kick aside my views and askew, yet can regurgitate a quote you found somewhere. How about in your own words?

 

So have we all.

 

Can't help but feel negative toward them.
Annually we give them billions. They couldn't survive without our money.
Also, they ripped off Germany for years for "reparations" for the alleged "holocaust".
How many among them were related to any of the deceased.?
Their claim to the land is based on a self-serving document that is wholly mythological. Most of their leaders who have been making these demands are Atheist.

 

I cant stand a parasitic lifelong welfare queen... who cant exist without U.S blood and money

 

So...pretty much all of Europe?

 

I feel negative about Israel because the Palestinian people should have been forced to convert to the Judaism by now. All this stuffing about is just getting a lot more people killed in the long run. Freedom of religion may be a basic human right but where Palestine is concerned it is going to have to be one religion or the other.

 

You know, you're actually right. that there would've been less dead people and conflict by now if they were just forcibly converted. on the moral side though.. I don't know.

 

Sorry - don't understand. What are you on?

 

It has nothing to do with religion whatever - it is about the fantasy 'race', which all nazis believe in. Heil Netemyahu!

 

Or perhaps if the European immigrants stayed in Europe (or went elsewhere), this mess could have easily been avoided.

 

Strasser, your claim that the Stern Gang being hardly representative of anything is false. The object of the Stern Gang as well as Irgun was to drive the British out so that so-called Jews could rule "their promised land", to say that this band of thugs and criminals is of no consequence belies the fact of the existence of Israel.
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Then you have Irgun

 

Hardly.

 

Should they?

Why should they?

 

Europe did not want them either, and they were often disloyal to their host nation, which is why.