How does gay marriage affect you?

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  1. rahl

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    Since procreation is irrelevant to who can marry, your statement is a flat out lie.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Its irrelevant in 6 states. It is why marriage is limited to a man and a woman in the other 44 states.
     
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    It's always interesting to me how the people who ask this question never apply it to themselves. If you are not gay, how does lack of gay marriage affect you?
     
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    Incorrect. Once again. As usual.

    Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

    This point has been explained over and over again, yet you seem to ignore the facts. Very strange.
     
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    No one claimed the govn't DID care one bit whether a couple can or can't procreate. Neither did anybody claim the ability/intention to procreate IS a requirement in order to get married. Only that marriage is limited to heterosexual couples, because they are the only couples who can procreate. Following quotes are from case law. Why marriage is limited to heterosexual couples and why it is constitutional for marriage to be so limited. And notice how "procreation", what you claim to be "irrelevant", is in fact central to why marriage is limited to heterosexual couples.

     
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    No, not 'everything'. That's where you keep making your mistake.

    Not 'everything'.
     
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    ___Amen.___
     
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    Yes, EVERYTHING. Case law above confirms my assertion. What evidence do you have that it is not?
     
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    no, not EVERYTHING. in fact, it has NOTHING to do with it. because procreation is not even mentioned in the marriage process.
     
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    Nonsense. Most all the marriage laws wont be mentioned in the marriage process.
     
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    Thats because marriage laws are written by the states, silly.
     
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    You are making just about ZERO sense; but you apparently believe your words are profound.

    Please dixon, come into reality and accept or admit that most people here are talking about LAW which affects homosexual people (RESTRICTS their rights, and no others).

    Procreation has the same bearing upon heterosexual marriage as it does upon homosexual marriage (by law). If heterosexual-marriage were legally predicated (to ANY degree) upon marriage... everyone here trying to tell you something (which you ignore) would know that things would be VERY different for "heterosexuals". In fact, they'd be facing 'restrictions' that would likely be Constitutionally challenged in this day/age.
     
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    ???? You are the one detached from reality here. Procreation has no bearing whatsoever on homosexual marriage. In heterosexual marriages it determines the paternity of most children born today.

    ยง 160.204. PRESUMPTION OF PATERNITY.
    (a) A man is presumed to be the father of a child if:
    (1) he is married to the mother of the child and the child is born during the marriage;.......

    Thats why marriage in 44 states is limited to heterosexual couples. The only couples who have the physical capacity to even produce a child.
     
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    Ok.....doesn't change the fact that provreation has nothing to do with who can and can't marry
     
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    And when they violate the US constitution, federal courts slap them down....silly.
     
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    It has everything to do with the limitation of marriage to heterosexual couples. From YOUR source-

    "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her."

    IMPLICIT, not "irrelevant"
     
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    If they get too close, I might catch the gay. That would be bad.
     
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    Nope.

    It does no such thing.

    It's quite amusing to see you continually dig this hole for yourself.
     
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    Sure it does. Every case cited relies upon heterosexuals unique capability to procrete to justify marriages limitation to heterosexual couples. You cant even string together a few words to state your argument. Simply stating mine is wrong isnt an argument.
     
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    He just doesn't get it.
     
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    I don't want to alarm anybody, but I've heard that gay men stick their weiners up each others bungholes. However, that may just be an urban legend.
     
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