How far away is the next American civil war?

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How far away is the next American civil war?

  1. 1-5 years

    3 vote(s)
    7.0%
  2. 5-10 years

    4 vote(s)
    9.3%
  3. 10-15 years

    1 vote(s)
    2.3%
  4. 15-20 years

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. 20-30 years

    2 vote(s)
    4.7%
  6. There will be no civil war

    26 vote(s)
    60.5%
  7. The union will disolve peacfully

    2 vote(s)
    4.7%
  8. Other. ( please write in below )

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, I feel the problem is more than that.....it is "demonic". I just use a term that is understandable for the secularists.
     
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    We have done the "compromise thing" for over a century. We need a better understanding of human nature. The tide seems to go in one direction. A "populist movement" has tried to apply the brakes. It is the last waning hope for humanity......and it seems to expose the problem. Perhaps the efforts of "humanity'" are not enough.
     
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    There are two aspects to human nature. The egoic nature, which deals with survival, separation, and the "me and mine" mentality. It has been the part that everyone has used since we have lived in caves. In some spiritual corcles it is known as the third density. Then we have our mostly subconscious "higher self", which understands that there is no such things as other people, that we are all just the same entity, with a splintered consciousness, experiencing the other splinters from individual perspectives. Humanity has been slowly shifting more and more into the "fourth density", where the illusion that we have been living in for hundreds of thousands of years is slowly being dropped, and we are beginning to grasp who we are.
    I'm not saying that our egoic nature is bad. It has kept us alive, and allowed us to learn the "lower level" lessons that we needed to learn. Since 2012, a massive shift has begun, where more and more people have graduated into "4th density". We probably have at least a few centuries for the shift to be complete, but in the meantime, there will likely be a lot of growing pains. In the end, though, humanity will greatly benefit from the shift.
    This world around us is not at all what we think it is. It is a massive illusion. It is a school, or a tutorial, for what reality actually is. Many, probably most, have not yet realized that so many things we think are vitally important are so insignificant that it is laughable.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All is vanity......human nature has been the same for 6,000 years. Every generation thinks "We have arrived". When I was young we were the "Age of Aquarius". Yeah, we had Charles Manson. Nothing is new under the sun. Just like gravity, the soul of human nature never changes. We need a new soul, that's all.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course it is nothing new. Ra was teaching it to the Egyptians thousands of years ago. Jesus was teaching it to the Hebrews. All is not vanity, all is love. Anything else is an illusion, which is what we see in our world now.
     
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    Most civil wars are over land distribution and wealth distribution, or simply put the wealthy own everything. They react with severe penalties when their grip is threatened.
    We have foreign countries buying up land, we have billionaires buying up range land and keeping civilians off of it, and we have investment funds buying up single family homes as rentals.
    90% of apartments are owned by investment companies, all the way from luxury to slums.
    Virtually every business leases, shopping centers are all owned by investment companies.
    When most of America becomes wage slaves living in little cubicles, you might be thinking it's time for a change of management one way or another.
     
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    Internal war is impossible. Whoever controls the F-16's, the Apaches, the MLRS... wins hands down against the guys with rifles. By the way, that gets complex. Apaches are made in Arizona. The Hellfire Missiles they fire are made in Florida.

    Chaos is likely, though. Disorder is spreading. San Francisco is turning into total chaos. It will get worse. The cohesion of the states will weaken. Blue states, whose people get all upset about prounouns and other silliness... will be unable to recruit WARRIORS. Red states will have plenty. Individual responsibility and self reliance will emerge as the greatest assets... as snowflakes reliant on government assistance will doom their areas to failure.

    All this will make America weak. The rest of the world will take advantage.

    Count on it.
     
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    I don't know "Ra". Did he take on the form of a human and become a servant to all? Did he willingly give his life to reconcile us to the father? Did he suffer a cruel death and forgive his tormenters? Did he rise from the dead and ascend to his rightful place? Anything less than that does not concern me.
     
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    Actually, that sounds more like a Revolution. I can't foresee a Civil War.
     
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    The best source for Ra is the book “The Law of One”. It is a chanelled work from the 1980s.. Ra’s first appearance was to the ancient Egyptians, but Ra’s teachings were soon corrupted by the priesthood there, much how Christianity has corrupted much of the teachings of Jesus. Ra is a 6th density entity that volunteered to aid in humanity’s spiritual development. Jesus has a somewhat different case, but with a similar mission to aid in humanity’s spiritual development. In both cases, humanity promptly used the teachings to create a hierarchy to secure worldly power for themselves and their political interests, setting themselves up as gatekeepers to “heaven”, which was not at all the intention of Jesus or Ra. But in both cases seeds were sewn, events were set in motion. Over time more and more of humanity is becoming ready for graduation to a higher density of existence that does not recognize a world of separation from one another.
    Love your enemy, because in doing so you are loving yourself. Your enemy literally is you. Nothing exists but God. God is love. Everything else is just illusion to provide contrast to existence.
     
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    A civil war? In 21st Century America?

    Lol!

    The first time you asked a comfortable, overweight, American to leave his home and risk his personal safety, it would be over. And in the unlikely event that enough big fat out of shape Americans gathered to form a civil war army, we'd immediately see about 80% casualties from trying to climb a small hill, carry a pack, or dig a foxhole. Of the 20% remaining, 10% would desert and go home as soon as the they got rained on, cold, or if their commander said something that wasn't nice. 9% would turn and run for their lives when the first shot was fired. That leaves 1%. And that's on the first day of the civil war. In less than a week we'd see that there were like 5 guys left on either side. They could shoot it out, and the survivors would be arrested by the police and eventually land in prison for a few decades.

    So no. Zero chance.
     
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    Remember Afghanistan? It wasn’t technology that prevailed.
     
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    Exactly, as in Viet Nam, it was politics, a lack of will to win that prevailed.
     
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    And those guerilla fighters weren’t easy targets. Happy to exist on rice and anxious to be rid of the colonists.
     
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    Eating rice i some sort of tactical advantage?
     
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    Cheap army to maintain.
     
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    My first tour in Iraq, someone screwed up. We were in a remote location and all we had were MRE "Black Beans and Rice" for our first four months. We would have joined the Mexican Army for a steak.
     
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    Far more likely than a civil war, we could see more efforts to redraw state lines, such as is happening with the Greater Idaho Movement.

    https://www.greateridaho.org/
     
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    Then if you don't believe God the Creator has the power and desire to preserve His Word, in spite of the deceitfulness of man kind, and Jesus was every bit who He claims to be, then you might as well just throw the baby out with the bathwater.
     
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    Which word would that be? The Christian version? The Muslim version?The Hindu version? The scientific version? The recently channeled version? Each are equally valid, and each has been corrupted for the purposes of power and control. Each has been used as an excuse to start wars, to divide humanity up into groups pitted against each other, and used to cast judgement on others.
    Yet in each can be found truth, if the messages are meditated upon. Some may apply in one period of a person’s life, which then leads a person to a different faith or outlook altogether. Both were correct for that person at that particular point in time. Truth Is found within us, because that is where our link to God is found, not in the ramblings of some preacher, priest, etc.
     
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    Sounds like you just go along to get along. So many versions. So you want to lay claim to all of them. Okay, I understand. I agree with C.S. Lewis. Jesus was either a liar..... a deceiver who claimed to be Creator of all that is for power and lust, or a lunatic.....who had hallucinations where he actually believed His Claim to Deity, or He is Lord. Don't soft pedal and put Jesus on an equal platform with the Rapist Mohammed or anyone of the Hindu gods, or any of the scientists that make false claims about vaccinations or where Covid came from. None of those versions you mention made the claims, performed the miracles, fulfilled prophecy, or showed the LOVE Jesus did. Write Him off altogether if you must, but don't diminish His name. "Truth is found within us??" Ha! We nailed our Savior to a tree!
    The ONLY Truth you get is through Jesus and when He dwells within you.
     
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    Hey, you're totally free to believe in whatever you want. It is a necessary part of your personal spiritual journey, and you are exactly where you are meant to be to learn the lessons you signed up for in this incarnation. If everyone believed in the same thing every lifetime, existence would be pointless. It is the diversity of thought and experience that provides the great contrasts that make existence worthwhile.
     
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    I selected "other" and I have no time frame for what is coming. The world is seeing a rapid rise in hate/jealousy for the Jews. Schools and immigrants from countries who despise America and its values. They came not to simulate into the American culture but to destroy and change it. The battle between good and evil Must Take Place.
     
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    Need to sack your local English teacher while you're at it.
     
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