has he been attacked for being JEWISH? it is important to appreciate that supporting Israel's actions against the Palestinians is not an essential requirement for being Jewish. I suspect there are quite a few Jewish people posting here ... but maybe they don't feel that it is necessary to identify as such. most jews I have met are individuals .. just like everybody else... and ... just like everybody else they often express their opinions without identifying themselves as belonging to a particular group of people.
cassandrabandra is another 'innuendo antisemite'. More subtle than most here but the usual attitudinal one.
So why am I being called derogatory jewish-related terms? Is that not pertaining to my percevied being JEWISH enough for you?
for fucjk's sake - anti semtism is anti Jewish - it is not the same as being critical of Israel's policies ... if you think it is - here's a few really hard core anti semites: http://mikopeled.wordpress.com/ http://www.avnery-news.co.il/ http://jfjfp.com/ http://www.batshalom.org/article.php?id=33 stop being such a nasty piece of work.
Blah, blah, blah....Everyone's an anti-semite who finds Zionism to be a regugnant ideology, right?.....Even jews?....Gotcha..Oh, I almost forgot, they are the self-loathing jews and communists..Your 'pin the swastika' tactics are pathetic.
in all fairness cassandra, I think you mean well in your liberal views, but I think you ignore the other types of posters here which are true anti-semites. They are also holohoax beleivers, believe that jews are aliens (and admit it) and confuse israeli-government policies with jews. If moderation were fair, I do not think i.beli would be as frustrated as he is. It gets to me more and more too.
Have you read the claims by some on this very board that jews are aliens, that the holocaust never existed, that jews are sneaky etc? That is a long way off from israeli politics.
Yes I told you that already. I have been called a khazar, a nazi, a murderer of children, and more. Oh I get it, it is about Israeli politics.
I have, but thankfully they appear to be a tiny minority. If you look at the contributions on this site objectively, it is clear that anti-muslim sentiment is far more prevelant than anti-jewish sentiment.
most of the true anti semites have been banned - there have been some who have been really disgusting (these generally disappear fairly quickly) and there have been a few who started to show their true colours the longer they were here, and who I haven't seen for a while now. there are plenty of people who are critical of Israel's policies - but I haven't seen these people generally talk about "Jews" in a derogatory fashion. the whole Israel/Palestine issue is an extremely emotive one which people feel strongly about. That may well mean that people use some pretty strong terms, some of which may appear anti semtic - if you can link me to the posts you regard as such, I will certainly give my opinion on whether I would regard them as anti semitic or not. In the real world I sometimes have to vet materials to ensure that they meet appropriate standards and do not use discriminatory language, so I am pretty used to identifying what is/isn't discriminatory or what may be construed as promoting antipathy towards a group of people.
OK - I haven't seen these posts. I would expect that if you were being addressed in this way because a person believed you to be a Jew, then they would be anti semitic (although nazis is hardly a term used to describe Jews). If however you being called a nazi because you supported actions that lead to the deaths of Palestinian children, then that would not be anti semitic. What do you think of people like me being called an Islamonazi because I think people shouldn't spread lies about Muslims?
False. the "Blatant" antisemites have been banned.. most. Many unbelievable Blatant ones like 'doeshomereno' last 6 months, a year or more. Those are ONE HOUR actions anywhere else Moon, Marlowe, margot, SNAKESTRETCHER (You must be joking!), and lesser innuendo-antisemites like You are the whole board. In fact, even many of the serious-debate pro-pal posters left because there were no Jews to debate- Harrassed by moderation or Appalled by the Filth allowed here. I am. As well as the antisemitic posts of Shiva HIMSELF.
If you identify all these people as antisemites, this is indicative of either a lack of understanding of what an antisemite is (as I said - it does not mean someone who is critical of Israel's actions), or paranoia on your part.
It is an intentional misuse and defense of the European Guilt Complex designed to pressure Europeans to support Israel regardless of what it does. Anti-Semitism is occasionally used correctly to condemn some racist views which do express real hatred against Semites, but most of its usages seem to wrongly condemn people who don't hate Jews, or where no evidence exists of any hatred being relevant.
Interesting. I occasionally work with an elderly Iraqi Christian who told me much the same thing; that everyone got on with each other, and their lives, until Zionism reared its ugly head in Israel.
Most were hasbara apparatchiks, got found out, and left. Oh, and I reported your disgusting private message to me. Enjoy your vacation...
Absolutely. The few genuine anti-Semites don't hang around long. However the rabid anti-Muslim posters are here in their droves-every day.
Don't like being called-out by people who are better informed than you are? Tough, go somewhere else-and take your vile private messages and troll tactics with you. Thank you for your co-operation.
LOL How much of this movement was due to persecution? hmmm... At the time of the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948, there were approximately 140,000–150,000 Jews living in Iran, the historical center of Persian Jewry. Over 85% have since migrated to either Israel or the United States. At the time of the 1979 Islamic Revolution, 80,000 still remained in Iran. From then on, Jewish emigration from Iran dramatically increased, as about 20,000 Jews left within several months after the Islamic Revolution.[43] Some sources put the Iranian Jewish population in the mid and late 1980s as between 20,000–30,000.[48] An estimate based on the 1986 census put the figure considerably higher for the same time, around 50,000.[49] From the mid 1990's to the present there has been more uniformity in the figures, with most sources since then estimating roughly 25,000 Jews remain in Iran.[50] Ayatollah Khomeini met with the Jewish community upon his return from exile in Paris and issued a fatwa decreeing that the Jews were to be protected. In the Islamic republic, Jews have become more religious. Families who had been secular in the 1970s started adhering to kosher dietary laws and more strictly observed rules against driving on the Shabbat. They stopped going to restaurants, cafes and cinemas and the synagogue became the focal point of their social lives.[18] Haroun Yashyaei, a film producer and former chairman of the Central Jewish Community in Iran said:[51] "Khomeini didn't mix up our community with Israel and Zionism – he saw us as Iranians." Although Israeli officials and some[who?] American Jewish communal leaders have urged Iranian Jews to leave their home country, Iranian Jews have stayed. According to the statistics compiled by HIAS, 152 out of the 25,000 Jews emigrated from Iran between October 2005 and September 2006 — down from 297 during the same period the previous year and 183 the year before. Sources[who?] said that the majority of those who have left in recent years cited economic and family reasons as their main incentive for leaving rather than political concerns.[52] In June 2007, though there were reports that wealthy expatriate Jews[which?] established a fund to offer incentives to Iranian Jews to emigrate to Israel, few took them up on the offer.[53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
"Persecution of Jews" in Iran seems to mirror persecution of Muslims in the US: These days anti-Jewish feeling is periodically stirred by the media. Mr Hammami says state-run television confuses Zionism and Judaism so that "ordinary people may think that whatever the Israelis do is supported by all Jews". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5367892.stm Iran's Jews feel very much at home "The founder of the Islamic republic, Ayatollah Khomeini, had remarkable political insight and he made a clear distinction between the Jewish religion and Zionism," said Dr Siamak Moresadiq, a representative of the Iranian Jewish community in the Iranian parliament. "Anti-Semitism is a purely western phenomenon. Organised anti-Semitism does not, and did not, exist here in Iran. There have been scattered instances of anti-Jewish propaganda and chauvinism but the conflict between Iran and Israel does not affect the lives of us Iranian Jews," he said. http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/middle-east/irans-jews-feel-very-much-at-home
I think that thats because hate speech against muslims, and deliberate lies to demonise them is acceptable on this forum, even encouraged - much the same way that hate speech against the Jews was in 1930's Germany.
