How many Jews died in the gas chambers?

If I asked how many Jews died in the Holocaust, this question would be rather trivial with most people giving the standard 6 million figure. In fact, some might even be required to say that or face prison. But I'm asking, specifically, how many died in the gas chambers excluding other methods Jews were killed.

Just a warning - no takebacks on this vote.

 

I personally went with ten million due to the implications of the Yair Davidiy research on where the Lost Tribes of Israel migrated to after their captivity at the hands of the Assyrian..... then Babylonian..... then Roman Empires.......

If I had answered for how many Jews who knew that they were Jewish died in gas chambers... my guess would be six or seven million......

https://www.britam.org/Proof/Joseph/joCyrus.html

The vast majority of "Jews" genetically... do NOT know that they are partly Jewish......


Even the Palestinians are largely descended from the first and second century Messianic Jewish community...... who DID NOT join in the Bar Kochba Revolt and thus WERE NOT expelled from the Holy Land by the Roman Empire.......


Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?

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https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/gas-chambers/

MEMORIAL AND MUSEUMAUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAUFORMER GERMAN NAZI
CONCENTRATION AND EXTERMINATION CAMP

 

Jews who died from ALL causes during the Holocaust is probably around 6 million...
However, all didn't die just solely due to the gas chambers...
Attack type
Genocide, ethnic cleansing, mass murder, mass shooting, death marches, poison gas, hate crime

 

I have to wonder why the person who started this thread said 0. I guess just a horrible denial of the atrocities that occurred during world war 2.

Other groups were also gassed including Roma gypsies, disabled (physical and intellectual), political prisoners, Jehovah’s Witnesses and homosexuals.

It is estimated that around 1 million Jews were murdered in the gas chambers at Auschwitz alone. The other extermination camps were Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and Chelmsford where many died as well.

@Bob Newhart what was your point in starting this thread?

 

Yitzhak Arad estimates between 4.5 and 5.5 million, nobody knows for sure. But yeah, it was a lot relative to the Jewish population of eastern Europe, the main demographic that were murdered. He published a book on the Operation Reinhardt camps outside Germany that were exclusively death camps, as opposed to the mixed death and labor camps inside Germany and Poland. They were closed in early 1943 or so, after murdering an estimated 3.5 million. The Nazis attempted to hide their existence by covering them over and planting farms over them, clear proof they knew they were losing the war that early and were hoping to keep them from being found.


https://iupress.org/9780253113696/belzec-sobibor-treblinka/

IIRC these were exclusively for murdering Jews. The Polish police and many town mayors were also helping the Nazis, with Polish villagers cheering the roundups and helping hunt them down, one reason I'm glad we didn't follow Patton's advice and lose any American soldiers 'liberating' eastern Europe from the Soviets. They all deserve each other.

 

Russian POWs were also deliberately worked and starved to death as well.

 

true, and smart Germans who could,, surrendered to the Brits or Americans. those who were captured by the Russians didn't ever see their homeland again in most cases

 

no idea because I doubt many autopsies were done on the remains of Jews found in the death camps to see if they have been gassed, starved to death, worked to death or died from an abject lack of medical care. One of my late father's close friends was an officer in one of the armored divisions that liberated what was part of Buchenwald and told us of all the dead piled up. How they died wasn't a main concern other than the fact that most of the survivors were on the verge of starvation and were sick. IIRC perhaps the most famous Holocaust Victim, Anne Frank, died of Typhus rather than Zyklon B gassing. My favorite bullshit from Holocaust deniers is the suggestion that starving Jews to death for allowing them to die from the obvious consequences of crowding people together in unsanitary conditions with no medical care was somehow less pernicious or less intentional than gassing or shooting people

 

Do you mean you think he voted zero? Cause I don't see him saying that.

You may be assuming he was first to vote in his own poll, and that's not a fair assumption. I just opened a poll. I may not put my own vote in for a few days....I don't want to lead anyone or pad anything.

But yeah, he may simply believe the gas chambers are a fiction, while still believing the Holocaust happened by other means. He certainly isn't denying the Holocaust itself. This is specifically about gas chambers.

 

Many of them thought we were so well supplied that they would be fed steaks as POWs. They were awed by our supplies. One unit captured an American truck and were awed by when they found it full of chocolate cakes; right then they knew they were going to lose the war. lol

 

a man I knew well-he died a couple decades ago, was a German national growing up in what is now Romania. his father was an academic and taught him some English, his mother ran sort of a bed and breakfast establishment. When Erwin was a teen SS recruiters approached his family and said they would get better rations if Erwin joined the SS. He did and went to fight the Russians where he was wounded. His father visited him in Germany at the military hospital he had been shipped back to and told him the Nazis were losing and he should surrender to the Americans or English and because Erwin understood English he could figure out who was who. So one day, during an allied bombing attack, he left the hospital and headed west. This was near the end of the war and when he heard soldiers speaking in English he raised his hands and yelled I SURRENDER-

he was debriefed by the OSS. He ended up working for the OSS with an "official" US army job as COOK since he knew how to cook due to his mother's business. He ultimately was able to become a US Citizen. He noted that only in America could the former member of the most hated military in the world become the owner of his own company, whose sons both earned doctorates and has he used to brag-his wife could drive a Cadillac,

 

I never understood the argument that killing people through starvation or putting them in conditions where diseases such as typhus or cholera was almost guaranteed to happen en mass was somehow less evil than gassing or shooting them

 

These deniers are just psycho sociopaths. they already know they're lying, too.

 

Not only America.

https://www.wgbh.org/news/2016-03-31/how-a-famous-former-nazi-officer-became-a-hitman-for-israel

And I would not be surprised if loads of Frenchman led succesful lives in Russia after Napoleon's defeat.

Its important to remember its usually politicians and other evil people who get us hating eachother. Aliens from outer space could hardly tell us apart I am sure, becasue we all have much more in common than we tend to think.

 

What a strange question? Why does it matter?

 

How many Jews died in the Holocaust? Not as many that are going to die if the Islamo-Nazis in Iran get their way!

Consider: the Biden regime gives the insane 'priesthood' that rules Iran billions of dollars and looks the other way while they go full-speed-ahead toward developing their nuclear weapons.

Then, just a couple of months ago, the Democrat Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, announces that the Iranians are just a few weeks away from having those nuclear weapons! Now... remember that it is the avowed intention of Iran to "wipe Israel off the face of the Earth".

 

Excellent question directed for the most knowledgeable experts.

I am not an expert, so only general thoughts on this very important question.

Because gas chambers were in few concentrations camps, and because Germans did not keep list of gassed Jews it is very difficult to calculate, the same as it is very difficult to calculate civilians killed in Gaza, Ukrainians who were starved to death during Holodomor or number of people killed during Armenian Genocide.

What we can know for sure? Jews will choose the higher number gassed Jews, people who hate Jews will choose the lower number, exactly the same as other people will do – Palestinians will choose the higher number of civilian killed in Gaza, Jews will choose the lower, Ukrainians will choose the higher number of people starved in the Holodomor, Russian will choose the lower, etc.

 

I see you confused the story of this ex German soldier with Otto Skorzeny, which not surprises me. Otto Skorzenny did not became a citizen of Israel, he was paid by Mossad to help Israel to spy and kill Israel enemies. I know that Israeli secret services use not only Germans, but even Palestinians. Can you believe that Russia and the US are doing the same - they hire anyone who can help them, without regard if a person is Nazi, racist, antisemite or Islamophobic!

 

It's good to check out the revisionist version.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-20#post-1074290299

 

I confused nothing. I provided a link to an example of a man from an even more hated group accepted by the ones with the most reason to hate him.

Here is another that went to Canada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Stigler

Americans definitely don't need to be told they are special anymore. They damn well aren't unless we are talking about extra special brainwashed with extra special undeserved inflated egos about things grandpa did and not them. So many of my so-called countrymen are so intolerable already that I never miss my old home.

 

Here's more info on the gas chambers.
https://codoh.com/?s=gas+chambers

I voted zero in the poll but my opinion is really, "From the research I've done, I'd bet there were no gas chambers".

I can modify my opinion if I get some credible evidence.

 

except that is complete nonsense. and it matters not how the prisoners were killed.

 

If you were willing to listen to evidence, you would have voted differently. You aren't.

 

How much of it have you looked at?

David Irving said that the Germans killed about 280,000 Jews by shooting them. I think that's reprehensible.

The revisionists' say the dead inmates we see in the photos died of typhus and starvation.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...locaust-denial.609023/page-19#post-1074264152

They say they weren't deliberately starved to death; the rail system that moved food around had been destroyed by bombing.

I know the official story. How much of the info I linked to in post #19 have you looked at?

 

Why is it a strange question? The gas-chambers are the centerpiece of Holocaust which every child has to learn and everyone must agree with or be imprisoned or worse. If the Holocaust is the most important genocide in history, shouldn't everyone know about it?

I'm not asking for little details - I'm asking for ball-park figures about the most important part of the Holocaust.

And at best, I only have 6 answers with only 1 even slightly conforming to the official narrative.

To me, that means most people who talk about or reference the Holocaust are mindlessly repeating what they are told to repeat.

But even here people are having to weasel-word it with "probably" . . .

Others are perfectly fine not knowing even a ball-park figure . . .

Some just dodge the question - effectively admitting they have no clue what the answer is.

I can give a list of names with ID numbers which can be verified as existing prior to be no longer living afterwards.

And people here claim they're all fake and Hamas made them all up.

Yet, no one has a problem with blindly believing the Holocaust? With all but ONE of you voting for a ballpark figure even close to the official narrative.

Is "holocaust-ignorant" > "holocaust denier"?