How many Jews died in the gas chambers?

Move the goalposts much?

 

I don't know if Hitler speeches are bogus or not, I also don't know if the stuff I read is bogus or not, show me believable evidence and I will change my opinion. In case it is about the subject I don't understand or the subject which demands to read too many books, I believe to some authorities, like Academia in democratic countries or free democratic press. Can Academia or free democratic press lie or make mistakes? Of course they can, but percent wise they are more often right than wrong. For example: Global Warming exist or no? To answer this question I trust Academia instead of trusting alternative theories like lobby for EV, Zionist/Scientist conspiration etc, but because I don't know climatology and I know that predict temperature in environment with so many variables is extremely difficult to predict I trust scientists consensus.

About Hitler speech - as some expert noticed - the reason politicians publicly lie and change their position so often, because they make public speeches to their base, when they talk to other politicians, their lie less because usually politicians are smarter than their base.

Links: Many of info I read is from paper books in pre-Internet are. Yes, I have some, I can scan and to show it, but today it is much more efficient to browse internet. You can download Main Kampf and find what Hitler thought about Jews and Lebensraum.
BTW: in Main Kampf Hitler mentioned Jews 119 times and Germans 103 times and he is not talking about "Lebensraum", but about "colonization"

My point is that I don't care what politician is saying to his base, I know that Nazis had plans to colonize Eastern Europe, Hitler mentioned in in Main Kampf, but specific plans are here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost
I also believe Stalin would attack his dear friend Adolf if he was sure he will win. Few historians wrote about Soviet Union plans to attack Germany, but we also know that Hitler hated communism. In Main Kampf Hitler mentioned bolshevism 15 times, bolshevik 4 times, bolshevization 3 times, communist 5 times, communists 4 times.

 

All we have is second-hand info so I can't rule that out. The point I'm making is that there's a big lie in the official narrative. Assuming this isn't a bogus translation of Hitler's speeches, we were lied to about what Hitler was telling the German people.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-17#post-1074283687

If one big lie has been identified, we have to be suspicious about the whole narrative.

 

There are far more lies in the official Holocaust narrative than there are truths.

The deliberate attempts to deceive began with the fact that all sides used atrocity propaganda to both demonize and demoralize the other side.

While the fraudulent "vaporizer", homicidal steam chambers, homicidal electrocution chambers etc have been debunked, the stubborn propaganda myth (1) about homicidal gas chambers still endures in the small minds of those who lack the common sense to see that using complex, expensive and labor intensive homicidal gas chambers is the least efficient way to kill "millions of people".

I can't believe the number of dummies that can't see the impossibility of gassing "millions of people" in hundreds of homicidal gas chambers than neither existed then nor exist today.

Have you noticed that not one gullible holocaustian has tried to refute the fact that not one mention is made of "gassing" or "homicidal gas chambers" in any of the countless intercepted German radio transmissions?

It's so much easier to howl "anti Semite" than refute the facts?

Thanks,



(1). “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

"The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations." [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.

 

"GOSSIP & SLANDER BUT NO SUBSTANCE"

So, you too can't produce a single photo or blueprint of the hundreds of homicidal gas chambers required to kill "millions of people" either.

Since you know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand, all you can do is generate snarky and dull witted slurs about those who do.

Get on topic or get lost.


"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" - Socrates

 

I clicked on the link and I got this.

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I did a search on "leaflets" at the IHR website and I got this.
https://duckduckgo.com/?sites=ihr.org&q=leaflets&ia=web

Your article doesn't seem to be there.


I'm in Madrid. Is this what happens where you are?

 

"AND STILL NO EVIDENCE OF EVEN ONE HOMICIDAL GAS CHAMBER"

If you'll lie about what I've already written and further evade substantive debate with puerile sarcasm why should anyone respond to any of your off-topic evasions.

Try again when you're capable of supporting your "homicidal gas chamber" fraud.

 

I don't remember even one lie I wrote, if I did, please remind me.
I didn't evade any debate with you, if I did, please remind you.
But I found in your posts plenty of inconsistences and stories which cannot be verified - for example there is not mention of "Top Secret Airborne, rapid deployment unit whose sole function was to help defend Israel in the event of hostilities" in which you supposedly served.
And how we can talk about "How many Jews died in the gas chambers?" when one of your argument you quoted is:
“Deir Yasin Massacre, 09.04.1948”
https://www.countercurrents.org/alhelsi100410.htm

And what is the purpose of pasting links which does not exist?

But I think I understand you - a person who believe that he spent time in Academia, who believe that he served in the most secret airborne, rapid deployment unit whose sole function was to help defend Israel, person who believe that Academia is nothing more than the worst of Groupthink, that "Academia" mentality tortured people who didn't believe that the earth was the center of our solar system, that we should believe to Nicholas Kollerstrom - person who wrote that Auschwitz had had art classes, a well-stocked library for inmates, and an elegant swimming pool where inmates would sunbathe on weekends while watching water polo and that Paul McCartney is dead - such person for sure will accuse me of lying.

So let me again ask you the rhetoric question (I will be surprise me if you will answer):
since you believe that there were gas chambers in concentration camps, what kind of proof you need to believe that in this gas chambers Germans murdered people?

 

Thanks for telling me.

Try: https://www.kultur.lu.se/media/utbi...r/SASH65/20171/Auschwitz__Myths_and_Facts.pdf

Since there are armies of Hasbara trolls and chronically offended Holocaust hucksters that do nothing but work to have facts that threaten the Muti Billion dollar Holocaust Industry censored.

Because extracting money for Holocaust theme parks, the salaries of the Jet-Setting Holocaust Industry CEOs, etc is a multi Billion dollar business, it can't be threatened by the truth.

For example, you can guess who made up the "certain groups", (below).
Finally, canyon think of any other historical narrative that is so fragile in need draconian censorship laws to protect it from the truth.

Honest narratives don't need to lock people up for open discussion and honest examination.

Thanks again,



"NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"
https://vk.com/@-181845420-nkvd-forced-german-pows-to-build-fake-gas-chambers-after-the

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison. Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED

 

Uuups - one keyword missing and my post looks weird , so let me correct it:

I don't remember even one lie I wrote, if I did, please remind me.
I didn't evade any debate with you, if I did, please remind you.
But I found in your posts plenty of inconsistences and stories which cannot be verified - for example there is not mention of "Top Secret Airborne, rapid deployment unit whose sole function was to help defend Israel in the event of hostilities" in which you supposedly served.

And how we can talk about "How many Jews died in the gas chambers?" when one of your argument you quoted is:
“Deir Yasin Massacre, 09.04.1948”
https://www.countercurrents.org/alhelsi100410.htm

And what is the purpose of pasting links which does not exist?

But I think I understand you - a person who believe that he spent time in Academia, who believe that he served in the most secret airborne, rapid deployment unit whose sole function was to help defend Israel, person who believe that Academia is nothing more than the worst of Groupthink, that "Academia" mentality tortured people who didn't believe that the earth was the center of our solar system, that we should believe to Nicholas Kollerstrom - person who wrote that Auschwitz had had art classes, a well-stocked library for inmates, and an elegant swimming pool where inmates would sunbathe on weekends while watching water polo and that Paul McCartney is dead - such person for sure will accuse me of lying.

So let me again ask you the rhetoric question (I will be surprise me if you will answer):
since you believe that there were gas chambers in concentration camps, what kind of proof you need to believe that in this gas chambers Germans murdered people?

 

Have you checked out the info to which I linked in posts #19 and #51?

 

I never said I'd never viewed that particular info. I might have said that about something else. Please link to where I said that.

 

this is a good summary of what many of us have said

 

And yet Academia has far too many anti-Semetic and Hamas loving liars.

As for peer review, it turned into nearly as big a heap of garbage as academia

FOLLOW THE SCIENCE! Biden-Harris admin’s NSF spent over $2 billion imposing DEI on scientific research: Senate report.

The Nation Science Foundation proved to be greedy pigs willing to sell out for a few $Billion.

 

I believe that the inspiration for the maxim: "The first casualty of war is the Truth." comes from the fact that both sides of any conflict use atrocity propaganda to demonize and demoralize their enemy; WW 2 was no exception.

The inspiration for that reality probably comes from another commonly known fact that: "The victors write the history."
It comes as no surprise, then, that much of the WW 2 narrative is largely residual Allied propaganda and perhaps the most durable exemplification of that fact are stubborn hoaxes concerning German homicidal "vaporizers", steam, electrocution and gas chambers.

Even though Western doctors performed thousands of autopsies, they didn't find a single death caused by gassing. (1)
Additionally, they found no evidence of a policy of deliberately killing people by starvation, (1) however, since this thread is about homicidal gas chambers, I will try to stick to that specific topic.

There are no legitimate German records that report 2.7 million Jews killed in homicidal gas chambers. and transporting, housing, feeding, guarding and attempting to herd large groups of people into complex, costly, time consuming and labor intensive homicidal gas chambers is absolutely the least "efficient" way to kill large groups of people.
That's why there's no credible evidence of anyone ever using them on a large scale.

All these and other bizarre and grisly fables manufactured by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry like the "vaporizer", electrified conveyor belts, homicidal steam chambers have been long debunked.
They, along with the "human skin" lampshades, "human fat" soap, shrunken heads etc prove an 80 year old pattern of chronic lying and deliberate fraud. It's time to retire the homicidal gas chamber myth because it cheapens the truthful aspects of the Holocaust.

So far, no one has been able to refute the facts I have already presented and supported that:

1. Not one of the thousands of post war autopsies done by Western doctors report death by gassing.
Why?

2. When the British broke the Enigma code, they could listen to all German radio transmissions. Of the countless radio transmissions sent, not one single message contained any mention of homicidal gas chambers or death by gassing.
Why?

3. Churchill, De Gaulle and Eisenhower all wrote post war books, each one of them thousands of pages long. There is not one mention of a homicidal gas chamber anywhere in any of the three.
Why?

4. If "millions of people were killed in this slow, dangerous, expensive and labor intensive manner then there would have to have been hundreds of homicidal gas chambers throughout Europe.
Where are they all?

5. "The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." (2)


The absence of homicidal gas chambers, however, does nothing minimize the immorality of killing innocent people and it is the injection of obvious hoaxes that trivialize the memory of the many who suffered miserably, not honest examination and open discussion.

Thanks,



(1). “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas”
https://vk.com/@eric52-allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas

EXCERPT “Dr. Larson’s findings? In a 1980 newspaper interview he said: “What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax.” And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he “was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theatre” of Allied military operations, confirmed that “never was a case of poison gas uncovered.”

Dr. Russell Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” CONTINUED


(2). “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/

 

Well, I am not surprised that a person who believe that Academia is nothing more than the worst of Groupthink, that "Academia" mentality tortured people who didn't believe that the earth was the center of our solar system, that we should believe to Nicholas Kollerstrom - person who wrote that Auschwitz had had art classes, a well-stocked library for inmates, and an elegant swimming pool where inmates would sunbathe on weekends while watching water polo and that Paul McCartney is dead - such person for sure will ask such question, so here are some answers:


1: Not one of the thousands of post war autopsies done by Western doctors report death by gassing.
Why?
Because in November 1944, Himmler ordered the cessation of gassing operations at Auschwitz-Birkenau, and the destruction of the gas chambers and crematoria there. This was partly motivated by a desire to cover up evidence of the genocide as the Allies advanced and to potentially use surviving Jews as bargaining chips in negotiations with the Western Allies. All bodies of gassed people wee burned in crematories, so this is the reason autopsies done by Western doctors didn’t report death by gassing.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/cont...tion-of-auschwitz-gas-chambers-and-crematoria


2: When the British broke the Enigma code, they could listen to all German radio transmissions. Of the countless radio transmissions sent, not one single message contained any mention of homicidal gas chambers or death by gassing.
Why?
Few reasons – first reason is that gas chambers were located in camps which used land lines, not radio. Second – people who served in the army know that certain things you never say over communication lines, you use code or you don’t mention. People who didn’t serve in army are convinced that if German gassed some people immediately they will send the message: ‘today we gassed 100 infants, 20 pregnant women, 50 Hungarian Jews, 100 Polish Jews and 30 Russian soldiers’. Nope, this is not how army communicates

3: Churchill, De Gaulle and Eisenhower all wrote post war books, each one of them thousands of pages long. There is not one mention of a homicidal gas chamber anywhere in any of the three.
Why?
Because it was not important to them. They also did not mentioned that homosexuals were imprisoned in concentration camps, does it means Nazis did not persecuted homosexuals?
They also didn’t mention T4 Aktion (Action T4), the program for the systematic murder of mentally ill and disabled individuals, does it means Nazis didn’t gas mentally ill and disabled people?

4: If "millions of people were killed in this slow, dangerous, expensive and labor intensive manner then there would have to have been hundreds of homicidal gas chambers throughout Europe.
Where are they all?
Capacity per Day: At its peak, the gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau could kill between 6,000 to 8,000 people per day, only in Auschwitz-Birkenau in one year Germans could murder over million people in one year without the need of hundreds of homicidal gas chambers.

5: "The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." (2)
Red Cross did not mentioned about the gas chambers, the same as is not mention massive rapes by the Soviet Army, does it means Soviet Army did not committed massive rapes?
Here is how Red Cross evaluates its own performance:
https://www.icrc.org/en/document/icrc-wwii-holocaust

Conclusion: people who who believe that Academia is nothing more than the worst of Groupthink, that "Academia" mentality tortured people who didn't believe that the earth was the center of our solar system, that we should believe to Nicholas Kollerstrom - person who wrote that Auschwitz had had art classes, a well-stocked library for inmates, and an elegant swimming pool where inmates would sunbathe on weekends while watching water polo and that Paul McCartney is dead, people who believe that only the Institute for Historical Review knows the truth – such people nothing can convince, not thousands of witnesses, no testimony of German concentration camps guards or commanders, or even admission of some Germans during the Nuremberg Trials – it is OK, there are Israelis don’t believe that Israel killed innocent civilians, there are Palestinians who don’t believe that Palestinians killed innocent civilians and plenty of other. We are here to discuss these subjects,

 

The bottom line is that the science shows that gassings were impossible the way they were explained to have been carried out.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...locaust-denial.609023/page-13#post-1074256367

 

" GRABBING AT STRAWS"

Just as I expect. Not one of your responses represents either common sense or credibility and some are so absurd as to be laughable.

For example, #2 you claim that a reason for no radio transmissions of homicidal gas chambers is because:

This was right after I already showed that the British had broken the German Enigma code. Please pay attention.

You clearly have no idea how the homicidal gas chamber process was supposed to work.

If you had ever tried to carry or drag even one dead or unconscious human body even 50 feet you would see the impossibility of dragging 6,000 - 8,000 bodies out of a toxic environment, loading them onto trucks, hauling them to the crematoria, off loading 6,000 - 8,000 bodies, carrying / dragging them to a muffle (oven) and cremating 6,000 - 8,000 in a single day. when it takes at least 4 hours to cremate even ONE body.

MORE UNSUPPORTABLE NONSENSE:

The captured Auschwitz Death Book reports that, overall, about 69,000 deaths at Auschwitz were from all causes and most of the deaths were from typhus and not even Jewish.
Again, no mention of homicidal vaporizers, steam, electrocution of homicidal gas chambers.

“The 4 Million Lie at Auschwitz”
http://www.searchforthetruth.co.uk/holocaust

EXCERPT “The death registry volumes fell into Soviet hands in January 1945 when Red Army forces captured Auschwitz. They remained inaccessible in Soviet archives until 1989, when officials in Moscow announced that they held 46 of the volumes, recording the deaths of 69,000 Auschwitz inmates. Consistent with the Sterbebuch records, other German wartime documents show that a very high percentage of the Jewish inmates at Auschwitz were not able to work, and were nevertheless not killed.” CONTINUED

Re:

That's your proof that there were no homicidal gas chambers?

The job of the Red Cross was to inspect German run work camps not post War Soviet rapes
So, you're just admitting what I already stated: "The Red Cross found no evidence of ANY homicidal gas chambers.

Try again when you have something other than fraudulent International Holocaust Industry propaganda and their" long running scam", "embezzlement,"
and "false restitution claims".

- "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


- "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

 

Read the "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. It even gives the recipe for soap from human fat Those NAZIS were sick folks. But anyway, a human body can be cremated quickly. I used to work in a foundry. Those furnaces would dispose of a body quickly.

 

Well, again, it look to me you have no idea what was German Enigma coding machine and how armies communicate, so let me explain:
German Enigma code encrypted messages, for instead of sending word ‘soldier’ it sent ‘eka23vff’ – this how it worked. Now every army teaches it soldiers using code words for specific tasks, for example instead sending message ‘send us rifle bullets’, soldiers will send a message ‘we expect small rain’. British broke the Enigma code, so for example they could translate ‘askhsah 32kj34j cjdj’ to we ‘expect small rain’.

Gassing people was a state secret, so for sure it was forbidden to send even hint of gassing people. Expecting that German will send even encrypted message of gassing people, it the same as expecting that US army will send encrypted message where the nuclear codes are hidden.

I am not sure who taught you simple arithmetic, but I think you have a valid case to demand your money money back.

The largest gas chambers were rooms about 200 square meters (14x14 meters). European Jews were not Americans, so without problem you can squeeze at least 4 people in 1 square meter, which gives at least 800 people per session, and if you use force, you can squeeze even more. BTW – in Japan metro the density can reach 6-8 people per square meter.

According to various sources:
It took about 10-30 minutes to put alive people in gas chambers
It took about 5-20 minutes to murder them with Zyklon B
It took about 30-60 minutes to remove dead bodies.

So even if we take the least favorite data: 2 hours full cycle, only 800 people per session, assuming that concentration camp prisoners did not belong to Unions, 10 session a day (20 hours of work day) you can murder 8000 thousand people without any problem.

Please, DO NOT TREAT ME AS GULLIBLE, POORLY EDUCATED PERSON. You may believe to the link someone gave you, but clicked on it and got:

You got confused - it is you job to prove that there were no homicidal gas chambers, my job is to prove they existed. Red Cross job was not to prove that gas chamber existed and were used to kill people, the same as Red Cross job was not to inform about rapes of Soviets soldiers.

And how Red Cross evaluates the job they did during WWII is here:
https://www.icrc.org/en/document/icrc-wwii-holocaust

Pathetic! If I'll show that 18 women were charged in false rape accusation, poorly educated, gullible people will start to believe that rape does not exist, but hey, everyone talks to his preferred audience.

 

"STILL NO PHOTO OR BLUEPRINT OF JUST ONE HOMICIDAL GAS CHAMBER"

Your whole comment is laughable collection of gossip, speculation, empty claims and regurgitated propaganda.

For example:

"...for sure...?" You have no idea what was forbidden or not forbidden to discuss using Enigma. You'll just make up stuff to fit the fraudulent Holocaust narrative.

All the messages from Auschwitz report that disease was the primary cause of death, not execution (1)

The logistics of arresting millions of people, housing them, transporting them, feeding them, providing medical and dental care as well as constant supervision would be overwhelming yet there's no record, anywhere of even one person being gassed; just the word of your eyewitnesses like Moshe Peer who is, of course, spreading his fantastic fable to anyone gullible enough to believe it.

Right up there with the homicidal "vaporizer" this "Jew Squeezer" you've made up out of desperation actually made me laugh:

- Where is a blueprint for this homicidal gas chamber ?

- Maybe those evil Nazi made everybody lie down so they could be stacked like firewood which could squeeze 8,000 people per session

- Where is this alleged homicidal gas chamber?

- Jewish scholar Arno Mayer, a professor of history at Princeton University, claims that more people died of disease than any other means. Who's right.

- Why are the Germans the only people in history alleged to have used homicidal gas chambers if they were so efficient?

- All the German work camps got the same amount of Zyklon B per inmate even though not all work camps were supposed to have had homicidal gas chambers. Why, then, did Auschwitz get the same amount of Zyklon B per inmate as the camps that are not supposed to have had homicidal gas chambers?

- Auschwitz only had enough coal delivered to cremate about 70,000 bodies; about the same number of deaths listed in the Auschwitz Death Ledger.
Where are the 1 million other human remains?

There are hundreds of reasons why the homicidal gas chamber myth its impossible especially when you consider the dangerous, expensive, complex and extreme labor intensive nature of the process.

Do you realize how absurd it is to think that it is possible to get 800 people to meekly stand in line and quietly shuffle to their death with the aid of your "Jew Squeezer"?

Have you ever carried or dragged a dead or unconscious body even 50 feet?
If you had, you'd see the absurdity of the homicidal gas chamber fable.




(1). "The Enemy Is Listening!"
https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/8/1/4028

EXCERPT "Oddly, only a very few Holocaust historians were interested in the information on the concentration camps. The reason for this astonishing lack of interest is presumably due to the following remark by author Hinsley:

The messages from Auschwitz, the largest camp, with 20,000 inmates,[4] mention disease as the chief cause of death, but also include references to executions by hanging and shooting. The decoded messages contain no references to gassings.

To sum up, the following facts may be considered established: The messages deciphered at Bletchley Park undoubtedly constitute one of the most reliable sources on the course of events during the Second World War.

They provide information on undertakings of the German army, navy, and air force. They provide an insight into the events occurring behind the Russian front and the conditions in the concentration camps.

Since the reports from Auschwitz contain no information on mass killings, the question of whether the British Intelligence Service "knew about the Holocaust," can be answered with a single word: "No!. CONTINUED


(2). "Montreal Gazette Says - “Jew Was Gassed Six Times - And Lived”
https://ia800609.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/10/items/TheHiddenHistoryOfTheHolocaust-MassiveEbooksCollection-Number2_623/TheHiddenHistoryOfTheHolocaust-MassiveEbooksCollection-Number2.zip&file=Little Moshe Peer Was Gassed Six Times.pdf

EXCERPT:

"The Story
" Nine year old Moishe is arrested, and sent to Bergen-Belsen, with his family. His mother is gassed and died, but Moshe was gassed six times… and lived. Each time he survived, he watched with horror as many of the women and children gassed with him collapsed and died. To this day, Peer doesn't know how he was able to survive. "Maybe children resist better, I don't know," he said in an interview last week.

Moshe Is Now A Speaker He tours Canada talking to children, telling them of the horrors of the death camps." CONTINUED

 

what is the ultimate motivation of those who want to pretend there was not mass gassings?

 

I think that you asked the same or a similar question before.

We already know the motivation behind those who claim that there were "mass gassings" and that's endless cash, worldwide fame and perpetual victim status:

- "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


- "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


- "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED

My motives for rejecting the homicidal gas chamber fable is simply for the sake of historical accuracy and because the process, as it is commonly described, is not only physically impossible but absolutely the most time consuming, dangerous, labor intensive and expensive way to kill large numbers of people I can think of.

Finally, the homicidal gas chamber hoax was and remains fictitious anti German slander and since WW 2 is over, it's time to retire the slanderous lies that went with its propaganda.

Thanks,



1(1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
http://ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales." CONTINUED


(2). "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


(3). “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
https://www.kultur.lu.se/media/utbi...r/SASH65/20171/Auschwitz__Myths_and_Facts.pdf

EXCERPT:

“Allied Propaganda

"The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.