How Talk Radio and Fox News Brainwashed My Dad

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  1. TBryant

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    There is some truth in this. I just do not think everyone can be brainwashed so easily.

    Seems like a too convenient a way to dismiss people who disagree with you.
     
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    Apparently you saw the thread and clicked to the last page, right? Try reading the thread. The studies are listed and linked to there.

    But the Cliff Notes are:

    More than 90 peer reviewed medical and scientific studies, some including MRI & EEG scans, have drawn the same or very similar conclusion about conservative brains. They are incapable of generating the proper amount of electrical current in the region that is supposed to tell them when their beliefs directly conflict with reality staring them in their faces. Their higher thinking regions have atrophied (making them incapable of dealing with complex issues hence their black & white view of the world) while their fear centers (amygdalas) are over developed (causing all sorts of issues). Future conservatives can be picked out from a classroom of mixed elementary school students due to an assortment of adjustment problems. And FAUX News causes brain damage.

    Again, if you want the details you'll have to read the posts. If, on the other hand, your cognitive style is to declare them all wrong without even reading what they have to say then you probably fall into the group they are referring to.

    That would be true IF there was ONLY ONE kind of intelligence. But conservatives are marked with the traits of drawing their conclusions BEFORE taking in the information necessary to make correct judgments and then sticking to those conclusions DESPITE any facts you present to them. In fact their arrogance causes them to become MORE sure of themselves the more evidence you put in front of them that shows that they're wrong. So regardless of how much intelligence they may have in OTHER areas or how much education they have had their cognitive processes are COMPLETELY screwed up when it comes to politics and social issues. In fact they become INCAPABLE of learning because they are UNWILLING to learn.

    Well there you have to ask WHY do those people disagree. You'll find the answers to that in this very post.
     
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    I declare them wrong based on the premise that the "conservative" brain has been identified by scientists. You would think they would have identified the "serial killer" or "bloodthirsty despot" brain first. But even if I could believe they can identify a conservative brain, then I would need to believe that they actually did use that science to identify the brains in the surveys as indeed having "conservative" brains. Maybe it was a bunch of liberals claiming to be conservatives lol? How the heck do they know?
     
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    I hate you, but this is funny.
    Lots of "dumb" people get ahead because they just keep on doing.
    Lots of "smart" people never get ahead because they keep on thinking.
    Its always a mix and judging others is always flawed.

    But thinking we are better than conservative people who live by their values and find release for their frustrations in conservative pundits..... Is hubris.
     
  5. WhoWhom

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    I agree with that sentiment to some extent. "Brainwash" is a lousy word to use as a political weapon in general (for many reasons). It removes the personal responsibility we all have of crafting our own political values, suggests that the "brainwashers" don't have or need to have any valid points because all they do anyway is overpower people's minds through trickery, etc. So, I don't like to use it or think it necessarily even exists.

    BUT, speaking from personal experience, the "right-wing noise-machine," as the author calls it, does have an effect that at least resembles the concept of brainwashing. I remember having a nearly identical experience to the author of this article where his father flipped out and said, "Don't ask me for help anymore" and he was acting like he was going to disown him. My father went similarly crazy-eyed a few years ago for even a more trivial reason: I was reading an article that poked fun at Tim Tebow a little bit and he went nuts. He began ranting about how liberals ruthlessly persecuted conservative Christians in the media and how the evil left wanted to destroy freedom of religion -- all while I had not said a single word. He was red-faced, huffing and puffing, and finished his rant with that line I quoted earlier...over a comedy article on Tim Tebow! There was no attempt at a dialogue, no hesitation at jumping to extreme conclusions. Just rage. That's the kind of effect the hard-right media powerhouses like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh can have.
     
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    Rush is a drug abusing kook whose followers aren't too bright.
     
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    "Dads" and generally old people are very prone to propaganda because their brains are not properly wired to deal with all this bombardment of information , process it and draw logical conclusions from it , younger generations will be better than we are in that .

    In general if you are too old or mid aged (like me) don't believe anything before you cross check it yourself and be very reluctant to take a position over any subject before you properly investigate it . Eh and when you have free time try to argue against an idea you embrace , it will enhance your reasoning skills.
     
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    Age is NOT the problem. The "Greatest Generation" overcame the Great Depression defeated Hitler, Mussolini, and Hiro Hito, built the National Highway System and the greatest economy the world has ever known, put several men on the moon, and so much more, also voted for the most liberal President in US history, FDR, FOUR TIMES.

    Their children, who voted for Ronald Reagan twice, had everything handed to them on a silver platter. Yet they can't even fix the roads or put their own grandchildren through elementary school. They don't have empathy for others because they never had to do without anything themselves. Their lives were too easy. Instead they have gone though the world like locusts going through a field stripping everything of value from the land. And they will be known in history as the "Worst Generation". Don't excuse them by saying they are just senile.
     
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    I get that a lot because I make conservatives see themselves as they really are; not as they wish they were.
     
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    Its completely bogus that Progressives who broke their arms patting themselves on the back for having higher levels of ethical journalism are now shilling and being spokespersons, censors, and damage control specialists for the Democrat Party and the Obama White House.




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    Linguist expert Chomsky and Zinn used the ad hominem attacks to disparage 9/11 researchers and JFK conspiracy archivists was directly funded by CIA front operations to discredit facts surrounding the U.S. led "war on terror" and other crimes of the State dating back to J.Edgar Hoovers spying on domestic protests and illegal wars that started only because the CIA and Military Industrial Complex had Kennedy killed. This is how the U.S. govmnt controls dissent by co-opting the "grass roots" organizations and denying this. Listen to Chomsky about 9/11, his diatribes preserve the "just war" narrative and conceal U.S. complicity in lies leading to mass carnage, and now includes the Arab Spring wars where in separate accounts Chomsky, the CIAs paid expert (like Juan Cole) claims were not U.S. planned. To be sure, he is lying for the New World Order globalists like Soros, the Heritage Foundation, the Ford Foundation, who pay him, (and others) fund public radio and TV with money from donations by Defense contracors and Big Oil cartels.

    To be clear, why Foundation funded media, and phony Progressive Establishment Democrat shows like Ford Foundations "the Nation" Radio, CounterSpin, Soros "Think Progress," Pacifica Radio, and Democracy Now, DO NOT examine the New World Order, the big picture of Full Spectrum Dominance, or the truth of U.S. planning and military behind "the Arab Spring" is because:

    "Soros was not operating alone; he was part of a full court press that included financing from the Ford and Heritage Foundations"


    George Soros: Imperial Wizard

    http://jamahiriyanews.wordpress.com/2003/12/09/george-soros-imperial-wizard-double-agent/

    As people like Amy Goodman, Tom Hartman, and similar Liberal fronts for the U.S. Government act to deliberately in concerted efforts, keep the American public citizenry in ignorance that their President Obamas war machine and media empires work to covertly deceive and destroy. Nor do the phoney Left and their Establishment Astrofturf websites ever examine the war crimes committed by assets of the Ford Foundation, Soros, or Antiwar.com, these people know all too well in their feigned ignorance, contrary to what all such public personas say publicly, that to orchestrate international incidents in the press for the purpose of justifying U.S. invasions and wars is a gross violation of the Geneva Conventions.

    Another writer descibes Anti-War.com and its role as a Pentagon DISINFO front. Antiwar.com: Your Best Source for Antiwar News?

    Antiwar.com: Your Best Source for Antiwar News? | Dissident Voice



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    Other authors noting Liberal and Progressive media benefactor and Carlyle Group member George Soros hidden hand in "pro-democracy organizations in other Arab countries (Algeria, Bahrain, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebannon, Lybia, Morocco, Palestine, Tunisia, Yemen, and Syria) financed by the State Department and the “democracy manipulating” foundations. In his appendix, Bensaada identifies the specific pro-democracy groups by name and the exact amount of US funding each received in 2009." And thus has the Smoking Gun: US Role in Arab Spring.

    The Most Revolutionary Act » Smoking Gun: US Role in Arab Spring

    The Soros Media "Empire"

    Swans Commentary: The Soros Media "Empire": The Power of Philanthropy to Engineer Consent, by Michael Barker - barker02

    And yet another author delineates the National Endowment for Democracys (a CIA front?) "shady history" in The Shady National Endowment for Democracy &The Prime Agenda of ‘Whoever’ is Next US President

    Sibel Edmonds' Boiling Frogs Post | Home of the Irate Minority

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    Another policy analyst describes the New World Order in practice:

    Central Asian Backlash Against US Franchised Revolutions

    Security Research Review Volume 1(4): Central Asian Backlash Against US Franchised Revolutions K Gajendra Singh

    The “Color” Revolutions in Eastern Europe and Asia

    "The CIA would subsequently utilize Sharp’s book, From Dictatorship to Democracy, throughout Eastern Europe and Asia, and in 2011, the US-engineered “Arab Spring.” Sharp himself, with funding from the AEI, the US government backed National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and its subsidiary International Republican Institute (IRI), and George Soros’ Open Society Institute, is also on record as providing “humanitarian” advice and training to antigovernment activists in Serbia, Zimbabwe, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iran, Belarus, Myanmar (Burma), Thailand, and Malaysia."

    Is Occupy Wall Street Just a “Color” Revolution?

    The Most Revolutionary Act » Is Occupy Wall Street Just a ?Color? Revolution?

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    Sounds like your dad can tell the truth when he hears it. Not like the other networks that lie as much as Obama. I try to watch a lot of different networks. Most of the time I just feel sickened watching CNN CNBC BBC and so on they just don't talk about important things. they talk in favor of Obama no matter what he does. Fox news if Obama ever did anything good they would report it. It is just to bad Obama hasn't done anything good.
     
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    You mean like when they complained that Obama had violated Osama bin Laden's civil rights?

    You guys have been listening to too much Alex Jones. Its rotting your brains.
     
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    Fox news reported it they didn't complain about it They thought is was a load of crap. Now who is the brainwashed around here?? Who is Alex Jones? :wall:
     
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    Of course if Bush had done it they would have praised him for YEARS over it. So you MUST have been LYING when you said:

    [video=youtube;l9RBXlE86Ng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9RBXlE86Ng[/video]
     
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    Thats the best we can do as Americans?

    Stuff ourselves silly and clog our arteries watching choreographed football games on the NFL channel or on ABC?

    We can't even do a simple thing like take charge of our out of control Military
    Industrial Complex now slaughtering the innocents of Syria?

    Or the country, (including some Progressives) cannot even report the news on wars and other topics accurately and tell the truth except for obscure blogs and foreign or grass roots radio podcasts?

    Americans cannot even control our enterntainment industry as the Pentagon contracts with Electronic Arts to produce more war video games, and Hollywood produces even more and more war propaganda movies, senseless violence and constant gun brandishing dramas about shootings?

    Example:

    Norman Goldman show has to have on the silly guy from George Soros funded Center for American Progress and Huffington, Alex Seitz Wald to come on the air and lie about the wars Soros Carlyle stocks are profiting off of. This is the public airwaves and they can't even get near the truth about what our President has ordered happen in foreign policy. All these so called Progressives bought off like Arriana took 150 million dollars to sell off the free speech of Huffington, so now all they do is shill for the war machine?

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    No destabilizing the Middle East and giving Iran a major victory without them having to fire a shot was ALL Bush admins doing. The soldiers were only following orders. Just like they were following Obama's orders when they took down Osama.

    One has to wonder if conservative behavior is primarily caused by their ignorance or their complete lack of integrity.
     
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    Sure. I like Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, and occasionally Sean Hannity.

    Doesn't everybody who listens for a few months?
     
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    Perhaps but there has to be something SERIOUSLY wrong with anyone who would listen to that crap for months.
     
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    I don't know you very well but I believe you may need to see someone about your hearing. I don't know much about psychiatry actually but someone out there has got to be able to help someone who hears things not actually spoken (it just might be all in your head).

    Good luck. Try Angie's List.
     
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    Remember the Bush/Cheney team put out that lie that Saddam had a secret meeting with Bin Laden, as a way of justifying Iraq after 9/11 ???

    What a HUGE WHOPPER that was! :roll: :omfg:





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    LOL. Why not just admit that you are a tool and you have never actually bothered to listen? I can help you if you like.
     
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    Ya So if Mickey mouse was president and said go ahead and capture Osama You would think Mickey should get the credit and not the military? Consider this day one BUSH is gone has been for five years.
     
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    What if you, by some stroke of bad luck, lost your job.

    Don't you think that one day, you may need access to health care?
     

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