How to live on $600 per month

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  1. Rexxon

    Rexxon Well-Known Member

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    I guess we should get that definition made, and I would recommend our lawmakers come up with that soon.

    Because if I end up homeless and starving, and I cannot get a job to survive on, I will go to a bank and hold it up, and make sure to get arrested. Then I end up in jail, and the taxpayers will end up paying for my food and board.

    And what do you think the costs will be, especially if there are large numbers of people that end up in that situation?
     
  2. Politics Junky

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    Whoa! Whoa! Take it easy. Remember millions of people don't pay anything. Social Security and Medicare taxes are just a figment of your imagination because Michelle Bachmann says people don't pay them.
     
  3. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Skip out on the last month's rent (which supposedly is $1400/month in NY state for a trailer), use that money to move and get a new place, then pay back the owed rent once you're set up in your new home.

    Second, why would you move somewhere WITHOUT a job lined up? Why is that one of the criteria? Who does that?
     
  4. Dave1mo

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    You'd probably make more if you didn't make the choice to "stay stuck exactly where you are" (your words) by spending all your time arguing on this forum.

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    You'd probably make more if you didn't make the choice to "stay stuck exactly where you are" (your words) by spending all your time arguing on this forum.
     
  5. Unifier

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    But you won't keep your living standards if you go to jail. They will drop, I presume, to even worse levels than they are now. Is this really the way you want to live? Especially when you don't have to?

    Look at your attitude. You are more focused on finding a way to make other people pay for you than finding a way to comfortably support yourself.
     
  6. Rexxon

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    Well, personally, I would not move without first having a job established, but then I have to take into account the costs of moving. Skipping out on my rent is a good way to be sued and possibly jailed, I would imagine. I can't afford court costs.

    I would imagine moving, especially cross country, would be pretty expensive.
     
  7. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    See heres my thing. I have zero problem with helping those who cannot help themselves. Whether it be disability, illness, etc. Everyone with a rational brain has a problem with giving people a free ride (those who cheat the system) so that's not the debate.

    My question is in regards to those who are working yet still get federal aid. That's where the whole "standard of living" comes in to play. We have minimum wage for a reason, but if you make minimum wage and the government still helps you then what's the point of having a minimum wage? You can live on minimum wage, you may not live well but you can live. Now I understand that some people may still need help. Single mothers who simply cannot afford daycare and have to work and need somewhere for their kid to go while they work. But I personally know people who simply want more who don't actually need it. I have a family member who has a $30,000 a year job and 2 kids but still gets government aid. $30,000 a year is enough money. Maybe not to buy the things you want, but it's enough to live in that situation. At what point do we draw the line and say well you make enough money to live without our help?

    That's why I ask who defines a "standard of living?" What is considered good enough? Minimum wage was established as the least amount of money you can pay someone so that they can actually live.
     
  8. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't be jailed for owing someone money (unless it is the government that you owe oddly enough).

    You may be sued but then you would just owe the last month's rent plus some court costs (which would pale in comparison to the $1400 trailer rent that you owe) which you could pay back once you settled in your new place.

    Moving is not an insurmountable task, especially if you sell your meager possessions like you stated. In that instance you would just need to catch a bus or a train.
     
  9. Unifier

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    Perhaps, but who says I need more? I'm not the one complaining about where I am. That's you guys. I'm quite content where I am. Apparently, I'm the worst kind of thorn in your side because I don't adhere to the rules about how you view the world. I live below the poverty line, I'm happy, and I vote Republican. I'm not supposed to be possible.
     
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    So then what happens about a trip to the hospital.That means No
    forced Obamacare mandate.You are forgetting that ObamaCare
    forces one,no matter what they make to have health coverage.
    Meaning Obama with his Historically illegal and stupid legislation
    of ObamaCare can literally destroy, singlehandedly that scenario of
    a fixed income.Unless someone can show me how Obama,this Great
    Marxist caregiver,can rationalize away how it won't destroy that person
    on a Limited Fixed income.
    C'mon all your Dred Scott Liberals.How is someone,living on a fixed income
    capable of affording yet another expense,like the Mandated ObamaCare.
    I'll gladly answer that.
    By Going on Government assistance.Meaning they'll be forced to bow
    down to the naked marxist Obama and apply for whatever government
    programs are offered.Meaning they will be indebted to an Obama
    Nanny state.Exactly the Obama plan.
    Obama and Democrats have literally made slaves out of those
    on limited fixed income.
    To MAKE americans dependent on his goodwill.
    Which is anything but Goodwill.
    Got it now.

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    So then what happens about a trip to the hospital.That means No
    forced Obamacare mandate.You are forgetting that ObamaCare
    forces one,no matter what they make to have health coverage.
    Meaning Obama with his Historically illegal and stupid legislation
    of ObamaCare can literally destroy, singlehandedly that scenario of
    a fixed income.Unless someone can show me how Obama,this Great
    Marxist caregiver,can rationalize away how it won't destroy that person
    on a Limited Fixed income.
    C'mon all your Dred Scott Liberals.How is someone,living on a fixed income
    capable of affording yet another expense,like the Mandated ObamaCare.
    I'll gladly answer that.
    By Going on Government assistance.Meaning they'll be forced to bow
    down to the naked marxist Obama and apply for whatever government
    programs are offered.Meaning they will be indebted to an Obama
    Nanny state.Exactly the Obama plan.
    Obama and Democrats have literally made slaves out of those
    on limited fixed income.
    To MAKE americans dependent on his goodwill.
    Which is anything but Goodwill.
    Got it now.
     
  11. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I also believes those are the sentiments of quite a few people. I'm replying again because what you said reminded me of a rap song I heard years ago.

    Jay-Z said "Picture me workin McDonalds, I'd rather pull a Mac on you sorry Mrs. Jackson but I'm packin".

    I honestly believe that if we abolished welfare then people would do this sort of thing. They would rather rob and steal and sell drugs than work a minimum wage job to support themselves.
     
  12. Dave1mo

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    According to the right, wealthy people work hard for what they've got; on the flip side, since you don't "got" anything, you must not work hard. Why are you lazy? I thought that was a "liberal" attribute?
     
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    Bottom line, the worst countries are the ones without welfare. What more needs to be said?
     
  14. Rexxon

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    Right now, my primary focus is to keep my current job, pay my bills, and live. I certainly do not have the disposable income right now to go back to college or learn a trade. And I am very risk adverse, so trying to start a business is not really a option.

    At my current job, the raise I got this year barely covered the extra money that is now being taken out for Social Security. So my pay remains the same this year. And in the mean time, the cost for my healthcare, food, and rent will be rising. There are very few luxaries I can cut, as I roomate with family and we split costs, and the few luxaries we have they would not be willing to cut. I certainly could not afford to live on my own with the pay I have, unless I lived in the ghetto and had nothing but a roof over my head and a hot plate, and maybe not even then.

    So, what do you suggest?
     
  15. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Yet instead of letting the government provide for him what he cannot afford he chooses to live within his means and is fine and happy with that.

    Now if only more people would share this same attitude...
     
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    Not a tent I would never advocate a tent I meant one of these.

    http://www.landshark-online.com/Features.html

    http://www.landshark-online.com/Stealth.html

    See its a bag you can fix it up and take it with you, in any natural terrain your invisible and its not a tent plus is insulated and waterproof.

    All you need to do is fine some spot say in a park or other setting and get hidden its not fancy but has many benefits.

    I assume one would want a pillow and something in the padding department to sleep on so added some cost to this.
     
  17. Unifier

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    I don't think anyone would really care about how lazy liberals are if they weren't always complaining about how bad their lives are and how everybody else owes them something. That's the difference between me and liberals. I'm content where I am. Should I desire more, I'll be happy to work harder. But I take full responsibility for where I am today. Nobody owes me (*)(*)(*)(*).


    Did you miss the part after that where it said, "happy?"


    Why are you risk adverse?
     
  18. Dave1mo

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    Yeah, you certainly seem like someone who is "happy" and "content" on this message board (note the sarcasm).
     
  19. Unifier

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    Do you see the irony in your post? So much negativity.
     
  20. Rexxon

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    Well, If I think on it, I spent most of my childhood growing up being constantly teased and verbally abused. I am a big, fat guy with horrible teeth, and I payed for it all the way until the end of highschool. I do not have a college degree or any specilized skills or knowledge. The only things I really have going for me are my voice and my patience, which I why I do so well in the call center I work at. I am just not confident that I would be able to succeed in starting up a business, even if I had the resources to do so and had the killer idea that has not already been taken.
     
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    This will be very hard to put into words on an internet forum and I will seriously apologize in advance if I offend you because I honestly am not trying to do so.

    But you are living now within the means of your income due to not having any specialized skills or college as you say. Do you believe that you deserve something more than you can currently provide for yourself?
     
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    Man, I dig your honesty. That's really cool. The fact that you can admit all that stuff is actually a huge asset. Because it shows you can be real with yourself.

    All good things in life come with risk. Which is why most people are unfulfilled. We're too afraid to risk anything. And so we settling for comforable mediocrity. You should make a point to start cultivating a habit of pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone everyday. The more you do this, the more you get used to facing challenges. And the more your confidence grows. You begin to develop faith in your ability to adapt and problem-solve. These are the building blocks for a self-made successful life. It won't happen overnight, and there's no magic pill. Just be patient and persistent. And it sounds like you've already got the patience part down. Which will work well to your advantage. I'm an impatient person by nature. It's something I've had to work on.
     
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    Interesting thread but in the future, set a trap for the liberals. Make the same thread with the same claim. Then proceed to explain that the average person in poverty is living on over $10,000 a year, So you can then almost double the costs after they argue about the details (social security comes out of the paycheck, for example) and promptly school them.

    problem is they'll then ignore the thread because it proves them wrong. The intellectual capacity of liberals is stunning!
     
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    Orlando is 1000 fantasy years from Florida. In FL's panhandle you could rent a trailer for $100 a month. Not Jax or Tallahassee or Pensacola, but there's about 300 miles of the panhandle that aren't those cities. Then there is the entire middle of the state EXCEPT Orlando. CRACKER COUNTRY! I live on the TREASURE COAST, like Orlando, it's not cheap here, but here ain't everywhere.
     
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    Cool! But again, I feel the need to ask.... Where is anything natural in St Pete?
     

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