How to live on $600 per month

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  1. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I don't think people are saying you can live comfortably on $600 a month, people are saying that you can live. I honestly know people who live like this...A pretty bad life but they do it and they aren't starving to death in the street.
     
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    Bigger bodies turn into smaller bodies on $50 a week. Nature is self regulating that way.
     
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    You could move to Clearwater and join a cult. I think they provide free food and boarding to the true believers.
     
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    That's before taxes, they would take up a little less than 200 a week. So a little less than 800 a month which is still pitiful.

    OP means Welfare is 600 a month, best take a 200 pay cut and not have to work.

    That way you qualify for a free I phone from Obama, only 200 free minutes a month buts its the better deal than working minimum wage.
     
  5. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Which is exactly what some people do...
     
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    Its not important there are free clinics and if you do end up in the hospital with a bill they need to try to collect with an income that low and a high bill most won't bother, and if they do you can always at some point go bankrupt. Nice thing about being a pauper you have little to lose one way or the other.
     
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    How is that the kids' fault?
     
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    Which is why universal health care is necessary; we'll be paying for it as a society one way or another.
     
  9. Dan40

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    No there are no income taxes on that amount. not even any withholding as the person may claim as many dependents as they wish since they will have no tax liability. FICA tax is $95.40 per MONTH, $1144.80 per year and this person will CERTAINLY desperately need the Social Security and Medicare this provides in their senior years. Additionally this person WILL receive EITC credits EXCEEDING the $1144.80 in FICA taxes. So they are making $1247.00 per month PLUS whatever extra they net from EITC, Plus whatever other govt give away freebies are available to someone at 135% of the 2012 poverty level. (in 2014 people at 133% of poverty are eligible for MEDICAID, so that handles their health care, health insurance baloney)
     
  10. Unifier

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    Move to Texas. (*)(*)(*)(*)'s cheap here. I live in a pretty decent place, and I only pay about $525 a month with water and utilities included. If I wanted to move to the ghetto, I could live even cheaper.


    Then move your ass. Unless you are rooted in the the ground like a tree, there is nothing keeping you in a place you cannot afford to live. I'm tired of hearing this. It's not a legtimate excuse.


    Healthcare does need to be legitimately addressed on a large scale. But the Democrat version of universal healthcare that they are pushing right now is screwing the very people it is intended to help. The more people on the government dole, the fewer places take government healthcare. I know people personally that have run into this multiple times just over this past year where they are having trouble getting treated for things because nobody will take their insurance and the ones that will are backed up for months because there are so few.
     
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    Obamacare was proposed by Republicans nearly two decades ago.
     
  12. Nightmare515

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    What they WANT is all hospitals to accept this insurance. That's what Obama doesn't understand about our system here. We aren't Socialist and that simple fact always put a damper on his plans. What the hell good is universal health care when nobody will accept your insurance.
     
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    depends on what part of the country you live in. In Southern DE, a run down trailer to rent is going to cost you a minimum of $500 per month, about $300 for the trailer and $200 for the lot rent.

    possible, however since most trailer parks are located quite a distance from grocery stores, transportation becomes a problem since we don't have public transportation. And where is the person going to get the cash to purchase this older car?

    Again depends on where you live, you're not going to be able to get just liability here for that little, try closer to $125.

    basic telephone is $22 per month. Internet, dialup will cost you another $10 to $15. DSL alone costs $22. if it's available, cable cost's min. of $70 for internet service if it's not bundled with TV, and it's not available to large sections of the County I live in.

    If you don't have too far to drive. I drive 80 miles round trip to my job.

    I was paying $40 per month in 1975 for propane, and it only fueled our stove.

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    Maybe in some places, but not in anywhere in DE that I know of. My county is the cheapest to live in, and you still could not even come close to living on $600 per month.
     
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    Most people don't have that option, especially low paid people, they have to go to where the work is, laborers, chicken plant workers, food processing plant workers, restaurant kitchen staff, waiters and waitresses, convenience store workers, custodial workers, etc.
     
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    So you're against it then?


    THANK YOU! This is exactly what I've been saying for the last year.
     
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    I seriously want to know what exactly he envisioned when he started this whole fiasco. I think he seriously believed that everyone would be just welcomed into all medical facilities with open arms. Or maybe he and his cronies honestly didn't know that medical facilities had a choice of whether or not to accept your particular insurance.
     
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    Is this one of those Soros threads, prepping us for the next four years? Sadly under the current administration many and more will be joining the ranks of $600 a month crowd...
     
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    I'm for single-payer health insurance.
     
  19. Dan40

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    D'ja ever think they might have wised up in 2 decades? And was it proposed by RepublicanS, or by one RINO Republican?

    Much like Romneycare which was not introduced by Romney, but by Democrats in a Democrat controlled House and a Democrat Controlled Senate. The Democrats had such control that after Romney VETOED the essence of the bill, the Democrats overrode all 8 of Romney's vetoes.(67% needed to override) Yet the press lies and calls it Romneycare.
     
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    I've yet to see a solution to the healthcare fiasco in this country proposed by the right, so we might as well see how they proposed to solve it two decades ago: with an individual mandate by the Heritage Foundation, the bastion of conservative thought and pseudo-research.
     
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    The Heritage Foundation does not introduce legislation. WHAT legislation was introduced by Republican to create an abortion like obamaSCAM?
    In brainstorming for ideas, ALL ideas are welcomed. When all are on the table the losers are winnowed out. The Republicans never introduced LEGISLATION to crate an obamaSCAM like health care system.

    And our health care system? These citizens all pay a higher percentage of their household income for health care than Americans do:

    http://www.oecd.org/health/

    Australia-18.6%, Austria-15.9, Belgium-19.4, Canada-14.2, Germany-13.2, Greece-38.4, Hungary-26.2, Iceland-18.2, Ireland-17.4, Israel-27.1, Italy-17.8, Japan-16.0, Spain-19.7, Sweden-16.8, Switzerland-25.1,

    The USA spends 11.8% of household income for health care.

    The world wide(OECD) average is 19.5%

    These countries spend a lesser percentage:

    France-7.3%, Luxembourg-11.6, Netherlands-5.2, New Zealand-10.5, United Kingdom-8.9.

    http://www.oecd.org/general/listofoecdmembercountries-ratificationoftheconventionontheoecd.htm

    OBVIOUSLY government health care is not a cure all, at all.

    And when I think of the US Govt running health care I think of my state DMV, the billion dollar losing USPS, Amtrak that THIS YEAR identified how much they lost per customer[rider]. To cut their losses, they cut their ridership. So govt health care, to cut their losses[guaranteed to be huge losses] will cut their patients. [rationing] Its not logical,,,,,,,,,,its the govt.
     
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    ---This is actually expensive. To put things into context, I'm a 6'2, 200lb male. For 90 cents I can prepare one meal consisting of rice, black beans a boneless skinless chicken breast. This meal has enough calories to keep me sated for 2.5-3hrs ( I eat 5 to 6 times a day). I do vary each meal but the difference in cost is less than a dollar per meal. I'll assume on the high end and say the average of each meal I eat is $1.10. At six meals I would pay $6.60 a day to have 6 meals.

    ---The two big differences between my meal plan and a dollar menu is in these two things: I eat healthy every meal and, in my experience, is takes at least two sandwiches from a dollar menu to make me feel sated, which would cost me $2 per trip (not to mention the cost in gas if I am driving there).

    ---The idea that eating healthy is expensive is a myth. Me and my girlfriend both live active lifestyles and we spend about $250 a month on enough calories for the two of us. Having a varied meal consisting of enough macro nutrients to make you feel sated and enough micro nutrients to promote your health is far more cost effective than to eat off of a dollar menu. Take 10 minutes of your time to sit down and figure it out, it's amazing how cheap it is if you know what your looking for when you enter the grocery store.

    ---P.S. I'm not singling you out, just using your statement as a contrast.
     
  23. liberalminority

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    Ask the Macdonalds drive thru person if state and federal taxes aren't taken out of their checks every week. Everyone pays taxes

    Now if they have many chillens, then that is right some of them get $10,000 back at the end of year from the IRS working minimum wage.
     
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    Black beans and rice with skinless chicken isn't tasty and kind of bland, the poor shouldn't have to suffer like that to eat cheap.

    What they need is Fast food vouchers to Popeyes, a solid 3 piece spicy fried chicken meal with the fixins is about 10 dollars.

    The average person needs 3 meals a day, so that is 30 dollars that the government should raise EBT benefits to compensate for.

    This 600 dollar number is not kosher in my opinion for humane conditions.
     
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    If you have to spend more than 8% of your income even with the subsidies given to lower income people for health insurance under Obamacare you are exempted from having to get coverage. That's written into the law.
     

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