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How Would A Rape/Incest Exception For Abortion Work?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Dayton3, Jun 26, 2022.

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    A raped women doesn't have anything to worry about as far a pregnancy she can prevent the pregnancy in the first place please explain why getting pregnant and then having an abortion is better?

    And rape is 1% of all abortions..............................let's deal with the 99%.
     
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  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What percent of all abortions due to rape were because the woman was in a coma months from recovery? How many times does that happen each year?

    I have not defined rape, it doesn't have to be defined we all know what is rape. This is about the fact that it does NOT have to end in a pregnancy FAR FROM IT. Her fertility can be managed and any pregnancy resulting prevented. And at the same time she can report to vile criminal who raped her for prosecution. I don't believe women are as weak and helpless as you want to make them out to be.
     
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    LISTEN ...this thread is about RAPE...if you continue to go off topic you will be reported.

    It is NOT about what a fetus is called....it is about rape and incest....don't like it?

    START yet another thread...

    YOUR denial that woman are harmed in rape is quite sadistic and sickening..

    Another who doesn't know what happens in a rape ( MINIMIZES IT).. first, try REAL HARD to understand every rape is not the same and every raped woman IS NOT THE SAME.

    In rape women are traumatized mentally and physically...all to varying degrees....some end up in a coma, some have to undergo surgery and months of recovery...and not every woman is capable of making a decision on pregnancy...

    ....Rape is NOT what you say it is....it is what happened to the woman...
     
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  4. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Because they represent only around 1% of abortions.

    If I thought we could get away with it there would be no such exceptions.
     
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  5. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    No, the real question is why ban abortion at all and then raped women would have nothing to worry about and Anti-Choicers won't look so hypocritical...





    No, they are not....do YOU make exceptions for rape ? ;) If so, why?


    LOL, so if only a certain percentage of fetuses are killed you're OK with that ???

    LOL

    A LOW PERCENTAGE makes it all better ??!!! LOLOLOL
    Does a low percentage make it NOT "murder" ??


    So in reality you would want a raped woman to suffer more and for longer than her rapist...how cruel...
     
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  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    If you can think of a way we can make the rapist suffer more I'm willing to listen.
     
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    I see, so first of all, only 1 percent of women getting abortions are rape victims, and now you're only talking about a fraction of that 1 percent.

    No one thinks an abortion will make the rape just go away.

    And in fact, in incest cases, abortion can often result in additional rapes, because abortion is often used to conceal the pregnancies.
     
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    It's about rape and abortion as I was discussing, try responding.

    Quote me saying a woman is not harmed in a rape else apologize and take back you characterizations of what I DID say.

    What does that have to do with the fact she can ensure she will not become pregnant. Just how helpless are you trying to make women out to be?

    MEN CAN BE RAPED TOO YOU KNOW. And were I raped I would be at the emergency room seeking medical treatment for any physical trauma I suffered from it and then the proper course of medicines to ensure I did not contract any STD's especially AIDS and Monkeypox. Wouldn't you?

    And again how many women are raped every year and go into a coma and then wake up and require an abortion? But how about this, put it in your medical directive that in the case of a coma due to a rape you are to be given the medication which will prevent any pregnancy.
     
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  9. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    So in reality you would want a raped woman to suffer more and for longer than her rapist...how cruel...
    :) I KNEW you would NOT be interested in the woman suffering LESS..." she is the victim, she must suffer and be punished for being raped"....straight from you and the Taliban
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    first, try REAL HARD to understand every rape is not the same and every raped woman IS NOT THE SAME.
    In rape women are traumatized mentally and physically...all to varying degrees...

    It isn't meant to...it's meant to alleviate the woman suffering more ...something I AM SURE YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN.

    GOODGAWD!! AGAIN BLAMING THE RAPE VICTIM....SO SICK!!!!!
     
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    Even when the victim's abuser is the one driving her to the abortion clinic?

    I know you want to "alleviate" the suffering on the victim, but what is the gestational age on that fetus?

    At some point, I really think we have to start thinking about it... because there's going to be another victim.
     
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  12. Dayton3

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    If you can suggest a way the woman can suffer LESS while still not allowing abortion I'm willing to listen?
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    So in reality you would want a raped woman to suffer more and for longer than her rapist...how cruel...

    :) I KNEW you would NOT be interested in the woman suffering LESS..." she is the victim, she must suffer and be punished for being raped"....straight from you and the Taliban


    Why? You obviously are not interested in a raped woman suffering less if you want to force her to gestate and bear her rapist's child.

    The rapist isn't forced to suffer through a pregnancy ....they do not suffer the lifelong effects of pregnancy...they will not have to go through the agonizing decision of whether to keep the kid or not....they will never have to fear having to share the kid with the other party....they suffer nothing but a jail term and it is never for life....the woman suffers the effects for life...

    I just don't know how anyone can be so fiendishly cruel and want to punish the victims of rape.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    GOODGAWD!! AGAIN BLAMING THE RAPE VICTIM....SO SICK!!!!!


    Blaming the victim is always wrong and sick no matter who drives her in a car....what a ridiculous premise..



    What about it? A fetus won't suffer and a woman forced to gestate will.


    ...of the rapist's...
     
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  15. Dayton3

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    I could say the same about anyone who wants an unborn baby (what you call a fetus) to suffer and die.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑

    I just don't know how anyone can be so fiendishly cruel and want to punish the victims of rape.

    LOL, OK, you HAD to change the subject....NOW PROVE a fetus suffers in an abortion....remember SCIENCE disagrees with you.


    ...and obviously, by changing the subject, you could NOT defend your position on making raped women suffer more...

    I just don't know how anyone can be so fiendishly cruel and want to punish the victims of rape.
     
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    Dying most often involves "suffering".

    Prove that the "fetus" (baby) does not suffer in an abortion if that is your position (if that is not your position I apologize).

    and scientists have agendas of their own.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑

    I just don't know how anyone can be so fiendishly cruel and want to punish the victims of rape.


    LOL, OK, you HAD to change the subject....NOW PROVE a fetus suffers in an abortion....remember SCIENCE disagrees with you.


    ...and obviously, by changing the subject, you could NOT defend your position on making raped women suffer more...

    I just don't know how anyone can be so fiendishly cruel and want to punish the victims of rape.



    Prove it.



    No, your denying science won't prove anything...science has already proven that a fetus doesn't feel pain ..and YOUR OPINION of science doesn't matter nor does it prove you to be correct :)

    Want to go back to what we were actually discussing or still want to avoid it at all costs because you were stumped ?? :) :)
     
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    Prove it with links to anti abortion sources.
     

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    LOL, we were discussing rape and abortion...the TOPIC OF THE THREAD

    .Want to go back to what we were actually discussing or still want to avoid it at all costs because you were stumped ?? :) :)...


    The subject was a raped woman suffering more than the rapist....

    I see you want to avoid the fact that you didn't appear to care how much a rape victim suffered
     
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    It would help if you had a clue.

    You do not.

    But thanks for the laugh, sometimes I think we should change the name to the Comedy Forum.
     
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    What if she has a short window of opportunity to be able to prevent pregnancy after the rape, but for some reason or another she fails to act on that opportunity in a timely manner?

    We have to remember, not all victims are children.
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    You obviously are not interested in a raped woman suffering less if you want to force her to gestate and bear her rapist's child.
     
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  24. Dayton3

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    Nice of you to now admit that it is in fact a "child".
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    FoxHastings said: ↑
    You obviously are not interested in a raped woman suffering less if you want to force her to gestate and bear her rapist's child.


    Yes duhhhhhhhgugga DUH.....once it's born (she BEARS IT) then it is a child....why TF do you NEED it to be a "child " before birth? Ancient beliefs having nothing to do with facts or science??
     
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