Huge Protests In Iran Call for IRGC and Regime to Go After They Admit Shooting Down Plane

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  1. Bluesguy

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    I think it is our duty to support a movement to do so how about you? I think who is in charge effects our business in a HUGE way and the business of the region and the world. They are the biggest state sponsor of terror in the WORLD. Why do you give them a bye on that and say it is none of our business?
     
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    I think my support or lack of support is irrelevant. I would like to see Iran become more democratic, but by the same token, I think the downing of the aircraft was a genuine accident and have doubts about trying to use such as a political weapon. I would leave it to the Iranian people. Broadly and in general, I think non-violent protest should be permitted, but the State always has the duty to preserve law and order and prohibit the destruction of property.
    Don't you agree?
     
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    Obvious? Huh?

    Kind of like the like the guy who left the Dem.Party Last Month that the RW was claiming "left in the last 24 hours"?

    That sort of "obvious"?:bored:

    Got it.

    Cool.

    Anyway, back to the OP topic, feel free to get back to me when these "protests"" actually matter. (In terms of the USA).

    As of now, it is an internal issue to Iran.
     
  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The protests matter to the people of Iran.

    Trump is the point of light in a world being swept into darkness and despair by evil-his words certainly matter.
     
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    Great.

    Trump is getting out "ahead of the story".

    He knows that IF there is a "massacre" that Trump's Unhinged Impulsive Actions will be the CAUSE.

    The last thing that Trump wants is MORE Blood on his hands.

    In addition to the 236 (from funeral trampling and jet tragedy) that he is already responsible for.

    Let us hope for a Peaceful Resolution. Godspeed.:salute:
     
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    Most American jews aren’t from Israel
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    As far as I know these are peaceful protest and the only danger of violence is from the IRANIAN GOVERNMENT WHO SLAUGHTERED 1500 IN THE LAST ONE........geeeezzzzzz

    Yes I think we AS A PEOPLE AND A COUNTRY should give our 100% support to these groups seeking their freedom and liberty and trying to depose a government which is the largest state sponsor of terrorism and has slaughtered and injured thousands of Americans. Don't ya think?
     
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    Can you come up with anything positive to say about it?
     
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    I take a historical perspective on "terrorism." I consider it to be a weapon of war used by the weak. Most nations have used it at one time or the other. The Israelis used it against the British. Much earlier, we used it against the British, at different points during the Revolution. Today, largely through the advent of nuclear weapons, I expect it to be used increasingly as a means of challenging nuclear powers without direct confrontation. That is not to say I approve of the Iranian terrorist activities. I do not. But I do understand their use of it as a weapon of the weak, vis a vie the nuclear powers of the United States and others. I believe the Iranian agreement on nuclear weapons was a positive step toward their evolution away from terrorism, as their economy grew in strength and became more tied to the West. Trump's abandonment of our commitment to that agreement was, IMO, a huge error in U.S. foreign policy, propelling us back toward violence as a solution.
    Our concern appears to me to be selective. During this same period two Americans (including one of our armed forces) died in an attack by Somalian rebels on a Special Ops airstrip in Kenya. Two more U.S. soldiers died in Afghanistan. The world is not lacking in causes to die for and I am not sure sending our forces into Afghanistan for 20 years or to Kenya or to Iraq is the proper course, IF the goal is a retreat from globalization. In fact, I'd say it was hypocritical to claim to want to end "the endless wars" while taking actions to extend them.
     
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    Totally.

    Much in the way that Hitler was the "point of light" that led to the creation of Israel.

    Got it.

    Anyway, the government of Iran is too smart to let these "protests" get out of hand.

    If things "get crazy", then I would expect an expulsion of foreign press and an internet blackout (until the situation is "resolved").
     
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    I think we would all like to see that. It will only happen through violence and pressure, however. Iranian leaders will kill as many as they have to in order to keep control.
     
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    You must have missed the LA riots and other riots in our own country during the late sixties. I do not know of any government that would not kill its own citizens to remain the "lawful authority" of the State, if they felt such was necessary.
     
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    I was in LA during the Rodney King riots, as "luck" would have it. Worst vacation ever. Watched the city burn from a high rise hotel in Marina Del Ray, paying $15 for a mix drink.

    I just wanted to comment that peaceful protests will never bring about change in Iran. Rather, a few eggs will have to be broken and it will get messy. In the end, it would be better for the world if Iran decides it wants to embrace Democracy.
     
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    I agree with your goal, if not the way to reach it. The key words were "if Iran decides it." And, I would guess that I've stayed in that same hotel about 10-20 years later.
     
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    Held in Tehran's prison system run by General Soleimanie's brother.

    Kudos to the Britt for the strength of character, tough stuff doing the right thing.
     
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    They did exactly what he warned against. But I’m glad he backed down (like Obama did) so long as it works ( like it did for Obama).
     
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    They intentionally fired a missile at an aircraft.

    They should be punished accordingly.
     
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    Well, I hope change comes about peacefully.

    The hotel had a rooftop bar and we sat up there watching the helicopters go from one raging fire to the next. There was a great little restaurant near there as well that served garlic chicken and it was fantastic. I wish I could remember the name of it.
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-support-iran-protesters-ukrainian-airplane

    This Iranian general doesn't agree with you.
     
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    Don't disagree...but for manslaughter, not first degree murder.
     
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    Most Iranians now want to the responsible, guilty to be sued
     
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    I remember a great Mexican restaurant and the first three Margaritas...after that not so much.
     
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    I suspect the government will pay, now that they've admitted guilt.
     
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    Nearly all blacks in the U.S. aren't from Africa and were never slaves, yet they want to be referred to as African-American and want slave reparations.
     
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    I like the the boldness on these people . They know that it's possible to get head shot but they protest anyway.
     
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