Huge Submarine disaster at Murmansk

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  1. EvilAztec

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    in any case Ray enlivens the atmosphere :)
     
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    this is true, that center it is vagus center.
    but the center has a sick dog :)
     
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    Fire's out folks, ever'body can go home now...
    :fart:
    Russia says nuclear submarine fire is finally extinguished
    December 30, 2011 - Russian officials say the nuclear submarine fire, which began yesterday, did not cause any radiation leaks.
     
  4. Dutch

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    ROFL, a regular Nostradamus, are you not? :mrgreen:
     
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    Working Together to Defuse Russia's Nuclear Timebomb
    Murmansk , the cemetry for dead but dangerous submarines



    Russia's decommissioned nuclear subs are rotting away on the Barents Sea coast
    On the beaches of the Barents Sea, near the Russian city of Murmansk, ex-Soviet nuclear submarines lie rotting, like ticking ecological time bombs.The Russians have called on German experts to help prevent disaster.

    Murmansk -- the biggest city to the north of the Arctic Circle -- is not exactly a pretty sight. The city, which during World War II played a key role in the Soviet Union's war efforts and later became the base for the North Sea fleet, has been transformed into an industrial wasteland with dilapitated factories and piles of rubbish and debris lining up against the horizon.


    Rotting submarines off the coast at Murmansk

    From behind the razor wire of a restricted military area, ship wrecks can be seen rising from the sea. Moored to floating pontoons, some 150 red-brown hulls -- discarded nuclear submarines -- bob up and down in the fish-rich fjords. These dying vessels were once the pride of the Soviet Union.

    For over two years, German company EWN has been building storage facilities in Murmansk to hold the reactors from the decommissioned and disintegrating Russian nuclear submarines. The German engineers working on the project know a lot about Russian nuclear technology. Many of them studied in the former Soviet Union.

    The large concrete area, about the size of a soccer pitch, and the huge containers which sit upon it will eventually provide a home for all the potentially hazardous atomic cores of the rotting vessels and help prevent any environmental disasters arising from a rupture at sea. The cost of preventing a catastrophe is currently in the range of 300 million euros ($441.5 million).

    A costly enterprise


    The subs are transported to nearby Nerpa to be cut up

    Utilizing shipyard workers from the nearby port of Nerpa, EWN has supervised the removal of the highly radioactive fuel elements from the submarines. For the Russians, the work is important but sad. Sawing the pride of the Soviet navy to bits claws at the Russian soul. Each submarine cost Moscow over two billion dollars.

    A floating dock brings the steel colossi along the fjord coast to the storage facilities, providing a safe and stable base for the fragile vessels on the unpredictable sea. A rail system pulls the hulks from the sea and takes the reactors to their new storage areas. Fourteen have already been safely re-housed. Seven more currently wait in the Nerpa shipyard to make the journey down the coast.

    The Germans are not helping the Russians simply out of the goodness of their hearts. There is a common objective. Germany has an interest in preventing any nuclear disasters on the Barents Sea coast.

    With Europe's northern coastline abutting Russia's, helping to secure the reactors at Murmansk reduces the risk of potential contamination in European waters.

    To that effect, Germany is hoping to contribute to another storage facility for low to medium-radioactive waste.

    It is hoped that in time, the current threat from the former Soviet Union's nuclear submarine fleet will go the way of the previous one: eradicated by cooperation and understanding.
     
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    Poor Nostradamus .He has just been used by modern money makers and charlatans to take cash from the gullible and uninformed .
    But you are right to hitch your skirt to me , Dutch .
    The man with the sources .
     
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    A perfect example of internet nobody with super-inflated sense of self-importance and ego, just because he can put two English words together... you're making me sad, raymondo.

    2 minutes wasted :mrgreen:
     
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    There is always something that nobody can argue with .
    Time .
    And I come up right nine times out of ten . The only one I am waiting for is the Smolensk Massacre to break public .
    Probably the truth will not emerge until Putin is forced out or steps down .
     
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    You answerd like you did reliables links.It's funny.
     
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    You are right Evil , I am a bundle of fun .
    Perhaps carried away by being up nearly c$50000 on the day through buying silver just before Xmas -- as predicted on the Silver Topic -- see Economics Section .
     
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    Forum rules prevents me from saying exactly what I think of you, raymondo :fart:
     
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    Now , now Dutch , jealousy is never pleasant to watch and is not good for the soul .
    With Spain and Italy due to roll over anytime soon , I hope to now see the next leg of this huge commodities Bull Market move ahead in style .
    I have projected forward and see that I need Silver to hit around $55 before I have a clear million "spare" , which is when I shall set off to literally tour the world .
    I can't imagine anything of importance happening in Denver or Colorado this coming year but I will keep you informed of progress as my year of prosperity continues to bloom .
    I wonder which will happen first ? Me hitting the road in my spanking new $80,000 trailer , or you paying $5 a gallon for gas .
    Both will happen this year , but exactly" when" is the big question . Sooner the better , I guess .
    But first , Sicily . Will be there this time next week . Ciaou.
     
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    Wonderful, I feel for you... I too just came back from the Surfers Paradise and am getting ready to leave for Moorea, while my people on Wall street and at Canary Wharf made me something like $20 or $25mln while I was away... :mrgreen:
     
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    NEXT CHAPTER

    WELL DONE BLOGGER 51 and NORWEGIAN TV

    Russian nuclear submarine's torpedo compartment burnt out, Norwegian Arctic coast strewn with dead herring
    Publication time: 4 January 2012, 17:26

    On January 4, Norwegian media, including the Norwegian television, reprinted from the website of the Norwegian paper Barents Observer a photos of Russian enemy nuclear submarine before and after the fire which started on December 29.

    Barents Observer writes:

    "Revealing photos of the nuclear powered submarine Yekaterinburg from before and during last week's fire clearly indicate that the flames come from inside the torpedo-compartment.

    A photo taken of "Yekaterinburg" in the floating dock in Roslyakova before the fire started on December 29th shows a large cut in the hull on the port side of the submarine. The hull is near the front bow, the part where the torpedo compartment is located.

    A large cut in the hull in the torpedo compartment of the submarine before the fire started. Photo republished with permission from Blogger51.

    A second photo, posted anonymously on blogger51, shows that the massive flames are coming out from the same cut in the hull. Blogger51 is a portal in Murmansk well known for posting information you normally don't find in other Russian media. BarentsObserver has got permission from Blogger51 to re-post the images.

    Massive flames coming out of the cut in the hull on the port side of the submarine.

    A third photo , taken after the fire was finally extinguished after 20 hours, shows that not much of the acoustic rubber coating on the surface of the submarine hull is damaged by the fire. The images contradict earlier statements that the fire stroked the outer hull.

    The blogger that has posted the images writes: "...this was shocking, I earlier incorrectly suggested that the markings on the front end came from an external fire, but here it is clear that the fairing was damaged from inside. Concerning the rubber coating, on the junction on the right side are not as many burned fragments of rubber coating, as dismantled ones".

    The fire and the reasons for the fire are a hot topic in social media like Facebook, Vkontakte and Twitter in the Murmansk region.

    The question many ask is; why was there a large cut in the hull of the submarine's torpedo compartment? What combustible material inside the hull made such large flames over such long period and why was it so difficult to extinguish the fire?", writes Barents Observer.

    Meanwhile, Nordic and Baltic media reported in a separate issue on January 4 that, starting from December 31, tens of thousands of dead herring had covered the beaches near the Norwegian Arctic towns of Kveness and Troms in northern Norway, just 20 miles from the site of the Russian nuclear submarine disaster and 10 miles from the Russian border.

    A researcher worker at Norwegian Institute of Marine Research, Jens Holst, said that he saw nothing similar during all his time of the observation of the marine life.
     
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    Do you know how to tell when everyone dislikes you?
     
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    It bothers me not one jot -- we call it water off a Duck's back .
    Nobody likes a winner , let alone somebody who knows more about a country than the people who live there or spent their early life there .
    I think you need helping again , Bertie . This is virtual reality .
    DUH
     
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    Bare in mind that I am a profiler , Dutch .
    And your amateur effort to tell porkies was pretty hopeless .
     
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    Scientists at the Institute of Marine Research said they would conduct tests on the fish to check they hadn't died from a disease. Jens Christian Holst from the institute said the deaths may have been caused by several different factors happening at the same time.

    Doomsayers offer an alternative theory, claiming that the fish did not suffer a natural death but instead it is a prophetic "sign" that 2012 will bring the end of the world.

    In November, a new Mayan discovery fuelled speculation that the year 2012 would bring an apocalypse. Mexico cashed in on the Mayan prophecy by encouraging a tourism boom in areas occupied by ancient Mayans.

    Hundreds of blackbirds fell from the sky in Arkansas on Sunday and last month 25 dead horses were found at the bottom of a cliff in New England. Officials said the blackbirds probably died from shock after someone aimed a firework at them.

    Last year, spot fish washed up in Chesapeake Bay, Maryland, and more blackbirds died in Arkansas.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wi...sands-of-herring-wash-up-on-Norway-beach.html
     
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    I've no idea what are you trying to say... that your mind is bare? We all know that... :fart:
     
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    What is your point , Lena ?
    Are you a believer in the Flying Pigs Theory ?
    Do you think the Fish committed suicide rather than being radioactively fried from their insides ?
     
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    Fish are more resistant to radiation than mammals. If they have been exposed for what ever reason, to any kind of deadly dosage of radiation, we'd read it/watch it by now in the mainstream media. Right?
     
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    Do you know who Charlie Sheen is? Winning! Haha.
     
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    Now that all of your fellow countryman have shunned you , are you coming here in desperation ?
    Unfortunately we seek intellectual stimulus . So try the Africa section . You will love it there .
     
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    You're seeking intellectual stimulus while arguing most of the time ad hominem.
     
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    So you also want to tell us all what stimulates me intellectually .My oh my , what a clever girl . Perhaps you are an oracle . Or coracle .
    What colour underwear should I wear , as you are all knowing?
    Incidentally , rather than practising your Latin on us , substitute the phrase with , cogently , accurately or compellingly .
    :wierdface:
     

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