Huge Submarine disaster at Murmansk

In spite of an official news clamp down and reports that the fire on the Ekaterinburg has been put out , this incident is far more serious than any Russian is being told .
These reports from the scene by on the spot people are fascinating .




By midday of Friday, the leader of Emergency Situations of Russia , Sergei Shoigu , announced that a fire at a nuclear submarine Ekaterinburg had been extinguished at 1:30 am on Friday, December 30.
But local sources report that the fire is continuing and this information is true at 7 am local time on Friday, December 30, according to the official group of Murmansk in VKontakte, says:

"Extinguishing of fires on nuclear submarine Ekaterinburg in Roslyakovo is ongoing. At this point we know that the flames can not be extinguished yet . According to the news it was put out back at 07:00 pm, but it is still burning ... .. Do not believe everything. We appeal for a Geiger counter here in Roslyakovo. The officials will never tell you the truth in the news.

Two aircrafts of MOE have flown from Moscow with both robot and combat units. Children have been evacuated from the North Sea. It seems that the situation is deplorable.

A lot of FSB agents are present. Two trucks with conscripts with guns have been driven here ... commander of the fleet ... The horror there! They are extinguishing and Extinguishing ... Russian officers are evacuating their families. In Severomorsk, my families' dosimeter if off scale. I called by Skype, they said there were technical problems . Why are we given old style treatment ?
My friend from military said Shoigu arrived in Roslyakovo! The submarine is burning inside, but it still far from the reactor. But still, it is not extinguished, and the situation is heating up! Blogger is hell closed. The last post (I can not yet verify) is that that he fire is inside the first compartment. Strangely, the blogger 51 was cut down. There just people from Roslyakovo are sharing with information in the comments.

There are real warheads on board. Before the planned fire work, they were required to pass the ammunition. The commander allowed, and the factory took the submarine with ammo! Anyway they saved at discharge. And the boys, you fight, you burn ... They turned Russia into Medved/Putin. Lawlessness is everywhere. Vote for Putin, guys.

One died. According to others, there are other people reported dead.

It is not clear the following: if only burned on the outside, why they could not put it out so long? According to the latest info, the dock is loaded so that the boat was over 30 cm of water. Do you seriously think that the rubber on the outside can be almost a day to be put out in the presence of all the means at the shore, not somewhere in the sea. I had a keepsake of a piece of rubber at Sevmash. But they forbid. They explained that it a high-tech and secret crap. Then there was an info that the fire was still in a compartment. But no more details.

It stands in the dock. The dock is countersunk. But the fire is likely inside the boat. It cannot be sunk, since a disassembled ship Kulakov is nearby.
I have a young man in the MOE, he's on watch to-morrow, they now called him, summoned him urgently, it's a very serious thing there, it's not simple, he reassures me that he's just summoned, pancake, he's summoned not at five in the evening, but in three am... Now only burns the torpedo bay!

My husband is in Roslyakovo. He is from the 6th company. He did not got in touch so far. I've just been in Roslyakovo, the traffic police do not allow anyone to get closer to this whole mess.

All units of Murmansk are working on the fire (6 am local time ), reserve units are on duty in the city ... 8 fire monitors are operating there - putting out outside, inside the crew is fighting for survival. They are waiting Tagirov and Chapriyan - they are deciding of diving in full (with dock), to fill the interior with the water. Prospects are not yet known .. A lot of work ... extinguishing in one place, the ignition is another.... Go nuts. So, nothing has yet ended.

A crew of 58 persons is on the submarine. The first links of GDZS have come. Fire is inside the torpedo mines. The diving is stopped - the fire had gone up.

Besides, if anything happened, even the whole country would be quietly celebrated the New Year, because the fire "5 times already localized and extinguished", according to the central television. Media do not tell the truth. Everything is ended for them in 9 pm. It's funny.

"And probably all will go", says a reader from Murmansk Svetlana Chervyakova at 7:00 am local time.

Meanwhile Moscow post-communist newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda ("Truth from Young Communist League)" put forward a version of the deliberate arson.

As reported to the newspaper its own sources, the submarine was set fire by the workers themselves, who made the repairs. According to this version, the sabotage was carried out in retaliation for a gang of Russian Defense Ministry is that the workers have not paid their salaries for a long time, making them virtually free slave workers.

This option, according to the KP, is checked by Putin's terrorist gang FSB. Remains unclear the fact that the fire has spread over a very short time over a large area of 150 square meters, the newspaper writes.

Meanwhile, experts point out that nuclear strategic submarine, which was the mainstay of the Northern Fleet of Russia, in fact is destroyed and can not be restored.

 

it is one of the worst fears those who work in or man submarines

 

The very history of modern Russia lies around submarine incidents .
The sinking of the Kursk has many strange perspectives .
At the time , Putin was on holiday and refused to return . He and Berezovsky had an almighty phone disagreement about this with Boris swearing at him , calling him a murderer and threatening him in order that he would return . This was a seminal moment in their relationship and the precursor to Boris finally having to flee Russia to save his life .
Putin then refused all help from foreign specialist teams who had experience of successfully rescuing people from the depths involved .
This has never been understood .Or forgiven in certain quarters .
On the other hand , there are those that say the submarine was stricken and had to be deliberately sunk to preserve secrets and to avoid the possibility of an even worse tragedy .
After the intelligence reports containing such allegations , Putin accused America of having attacked the submarine .
Until Putin is gone we must await the truth and in the meantime can only play with the conspiracy options that have swirled around for so long .
It will be interesting to see what allegations are forthcoming in Murmansk with a terrorist act being high on the list of probabilities . No group has made any claims yet , and no claims via the Kavkaz monitoring centre .

 

Best wishes to these affected by the accident and these, involved in the putting out the fire...

 

40 DEAD OR SERIOUSLY WOUNDED
As feared , incoming on- the- spot details show that this story will run and run .
Bit like Chernobyl , when the Russians denied everything for the first 48 hours , until matters finally became so out of control to even the biggest idiot sitting in Moscow .
Not that there is any evidence that this is another nuclear night mare .


Radiation released from burning Russian nuclear submarine, over 40 Russians killed or deadly wounded
Publication time: 30 December 2011, 14:31

According to the website of a renowned ecology expert in the northern Russian sea port of Murmansk, Yelena Vasilieva, as per Friday afternoon, the fire at the Russian nuclear strategic submarine has been continuing although the authorities in Moscow lied that it has been extinguished. More than 40 Russians have been already killed or deadly wounded as a result of the accident. A short-time release of the radioactivity was registered on Thursday afternoon, Mrs. Vasilieva says.

Mrs. Vasilieva's statement has been confirmed by another Murmansk resident, Dasha Minchenko, who reports as per midnight December 31 that the fire continues inside the nuclear submarine where it has initially started.

 

In other news, Santa Claus was spotted yesterday, hitchhiking his way back to the North Pole...

No link, no story.

 

That is precisely why I am posting this material .
There is a total news wipe out but they can't stop people in Murmansk blogging .

 

Here is an example of censorship in the Moscow Times , today December 31st ---English version .
This morning ( GMT ) you could read the headline and a four sentence summary of the Wikileaks news of E-mails detailing Russian internal corruption information . But the link to the detailed story was cancelled / never appeared .
Now , there is no trace of the story anywhere in the paper . It has ceased to exist . And that's about something that in general terms the whole world already knows !!

 

Only very naive people can believe that totally destroyed Russia will survive longer as a couple of years. A year of Putin's "government" has more destructive power as hundred nukes for Russia.Ten years of Putin have extremely effective transformed Russia to a very poor Banana Republic with rusty nukes.

 

Like I said, no link - no story.

OMW to drive Santa to the North Pole

 

i'm sure that will put you on the nice list forever.

 

There was a fire on the outside of a submarine in dry dock. Seven people inhaled combustion fumes. No deaths, no leaks, no explosions. widely reported, but boring really.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...BU89ow?docId=b87e618d511a4bc8b115ca5c251a3c50

 

Dutch
You are still living in the age of mainstream media as sources of news .
Dinosaur .
I told everybody three weeks before Russia invaded south Ossetia in August'08 precisely what would happen and where .Sources were from the Army itself from Moscow .
I also told people the date of Israel's invasion of Gaza a fortnight before it happened and their full three pronged invasion strategy .That was from Mossad supported and funded sources .Naturally , you have to be a little more circumspect in that type of scenario .
It depends now on whom you know and your professional background .
Next time I tell you something , you will be more inclined to listen .

 

And I'm telling you, I've just dropped Santa at the North Pole; this was witnessed by a few Eskimos and a polar bear.

What? You don't believe me? But I always tell the truth...

No link, no story. Move alone...

 

Dutch and Colonel --- neither the brightest peas in the pod .
Couldn't be bothered to read and check the named sources
Vkontakte
Komsomolskaya Pravda
and the personal site of Yelena Vasilleva who is world renowned and respected --- unlike either of you .

 

You do not know the golden rule of how to shoot from AK-47 " the shutter releasing freely" .
Otherwise cartridge jammed in the chamber. And your cartridge is stuck. Your knowledge about weapons is zero

 

Another gibberish post , unrelated to the topic .
Clearly you know absolutely nothing about the AK 74 and 74M which your own military now refuse to purchase . It has become a joke in top circles , completely inferior to the more lightweight 5.65mm calibre weapons available to NATO.
The same is true of your T90 tanks which Putin so desperately try to sell in summer . Chief of Staff , General Makarov has publicly stated that he will not authorise the purchase of even one because they are so full of defects .
Which makes the ground force of 20000 rather comical and brings back memories of the invasion of Georgia by Russia when the tanks in northern Ossetia would not even fire up when the order to invade was given on August 7th .
Evil , if you have nothing to add to a subject , be happy reading what others have available to help and instruct you .
Incidentally , is there anything left of the Northern Fleet Nuclear Submarine force? You scuttled the Kursk to save embarrassment .Drunken sailors and technicians set one on fire in Vladivostok whilst undergoing trials and now the Ekaterinburg has self destructed or been burnt down by workers who had not been paid . What a joke .

 

another one blank cartridge.

 

Don't be too hard on yourself .
Just think it through first and check your facts .

 

What facts You yourself are totally ephemeral. And you ask for the facts

 

It wasn't difficult to trace your story right to the 'Kavkaz Center' who lifted and gathered all they can about this 'sensational' story of yours.
However, even on the web page of Yelena Vasileva you can see that there's no confirmation and reliable source about 'short-time' radiation leak.

In other words, 'People' of the North Caucasus should learn slightly better Russian language next time they wish to unleash media dogs on Russian bear!

 

Stop worrying , Evil.
We know that your Internet options are heavily restricted .
Start blogging . Join Vkontakte .
Meanwhile I will keep you up to date .
Incidentally , don't forget to check out my sources .And get yourself signed up .

 

Why should I worry about. I have the place to be in the social network. So what?
Ray that you have read there or somewhere else, and presents as fact is just ridiculous.