Human contribution to the current megadrought in the SW U.S. is 46%

The old “kids bedroom” excuse

“But Muuuuum! Johnny doesn’t have to clean HIS bedroom!!!!

Did that excuse work when you were 10 years old? Do honestly think it should work now?

 

Please note everyone this is an actual research paper - not a blog it is published in a journal with a good impact factor (>13) and the authors are working in the field. The funding sources supporting the research is openly displayed

 

Mexico?

 

Robert - what do you think I mean when I talk about “Critical analysis” because THIS a is what I am talking about. My complaint is that this is NOT a what denialists here do or know how to do. I am actually willing to teach people how to do this BUT this is not a political model I.e. you apply it to those papers you agree with and those you do not

 

Well these people are going to come along and lecture all of us about how to live while they're flying around in Jets.

I don't know what these people are thinking the problem is China. Nothing anybody does is going to matter a hill of beans.

 

It does not matter

It is what YOU do that really counts

 

I don't fly around in Jets I don't refine oil so I don't do anything to harm the environment. In fact I'm among one of the groups that does a lot of things to support conservation I'd buy a hunting license and a fishing license every year.

 

Good for you

and that is what I meant - ultimately we each are responsible for our own actions

 

Except for the biggest offenders they want to limit my actions through law.

 

Your closed mind is unfortunate.
You have been provided links directly to the peer-reviewed research and have declined those as well. In fairness to others here, it's necessary to dismiss the uninformed comments of those who won't make an effort to learn the subject matter.

 

Just more modeling.
"We use an empirical drought reconstruction and three soil moisture metrics from 17 state-of-the-art general circulation models . . . ."

 

The data don't support the claims.
ABC News is Wrong, the Western U.S. Is Not Suffering from a Climate Change Induced “Megadrought”
DROUGHT JUNE 17, 2021
"ABC News is promoting the false claim that human climate change is responsible for a “Mega-drought” affecting much of the Western United States. Although drought conditions have persisted for a couple of years now across portions of the Western United States, droughts in the dry West are common and research shows much larger, longer-term droughts have occurred there historically. Because current conditions are not outside the historic records of drought, there is no evidence human greenhouse gas emissions are contributing the current drought. . . . "

 

Okaay
Research paper no 1. Talks of “dry lands” globally now is Western USA a classified “dry lands” area?
Does the research they have done into these specific ecologists translate across all ecologies?
Paper 2


Where in that paper does it say “this pattern is not part of global warming and we mean it really really?

 

And?
You don’t like models - that does not make them incorrect. Can you give me an analysis of the statistics underpinning those models that you find in error?

 

Really? Are they the “biggest offenders” or is it more likely to be the Koch Bros?

 

It also doesn't say witchcraft isn't involved. You're reaching.

 

I think the testimony of a one-time modeler should be given some weight.
Scientist’s Confession: Climate “Models Have “Serious Flaws”… Confident Others Will Speak Up On “Fraudulent Claims”
By P Gosselin on 14. September 2019

Now in English… An eye-opener book by Japanese MIT climate scientist now partly available in English at Kindle. MIT climate scientist Dr. Mototaka Nakamura’s writes global warming data are “untrustworthy”, “falsified”. Image: http://iprc.soest.hawaii.edu/ Not long ago we reported on a recently released book authored by Dr. Mototaka Nakamura, a scientist who received his doctorate from MIT […]

 

Yes.
First Global Assessment of Drylands – Research Highlights ...
https://www.fs.fed.us › highlights › highlights_display

Dryland regions include North America, North Africa, the Middle East, and Southwest Asia. The Forest Service Forest Inventory and Analysis program coordinated ...

 

Putting me down is not how to elevate your own status. I speak against alarmism. Deny what? That climate changes?

I deny climate is a reason to go around yelling your head off that climate changes.

 

That is not critical thinking at all.

 

When I was on the Board of Directors of a major Realtor operation, from 1983 to 1990, I brought up water supply to CA as a major issue. And it was in the latter 1980s. Trouble is for all the raising hell the Man killed my climate so called experts did, CA has as of 2021 made almost no changes. One change was made in the San Diego area to get operating Desalination plants going full blast. I am sure those help yet CA is not going gangbusters to collect or save more water. CA has extensive mountain ranges with suitible non populated valleys to create more reservoirs. Yet forces in CA keep persisting in wanting to demolish the Hetch Hetchy Reservoir, a kind of twin valley to Yosemite Valley for the sake of camping there and admiring the beauty. I would hate to see Yosemite dammed up but one such sight is sufficient unless man will ban more men coming to CA. But CA seems hell bound to import those from Mexico plus others in South America. But to the citizens they want them to only use water limited times per day. Government can supply water. But in CA they do not seem very dedicated to that need.

I an fairly new here in Idaho as a resident. I arrived in June of 2019 so have 2 years here. Due to the lower population along with ample water, it is not an issue here though the Forest Service map deems us a drylands area. If 20 million suddenly moved here, we would be in a world of hurt.

 

The Koch brothers have nothing on China.

 

I LIVE in a dryland region, Dryland Wheat is grown right in the hills to the South of my city, there are a lot of dryland farming in the West, has been for DECADES.

 

How many forums do you post to? Where are they? Such as other countries?

 

I do not recall her ever blaming China. But the Koch Brothers (only one is alive) heck yes.