I am a Vaxxer

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  1. Daniel Light

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    California doesn't force you to have a low paying job.
    Again, thousands of babies die every year from not being vaccinated compared to the 35 or so who die from vaccine reactions.
     
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    Only to go to public school.
     
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    There is still over one million deaths per year from Tetanus neonatorum

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    So?

    THIS is preventable

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    Which makes it more important they get vaccinations. As pointed out above, tetanus is a big killer of new-borns. Are you wanting to save pre-borns just so they can be killed off by not vaccinating them?
     
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    Preventable childhood disease whooping cough

     
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    Scientists Conclude Pertussis Vaccine Causes Permanent Brain Damage


    https://www.shannonlawgroup.com/library/vaccines-may-lead-to-encephalitis-in-some-cases.cfm

    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...ccine-causing-increased-infant-mortality.aspx
     
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    Apologies everyone

    Seems my data was a bit dated from last time I gave a talk on this subject WHO has been actively campaigning worldwide and it HAS made a difference mind you the data below is from REPORTED cases. Since most of the countries who are not active in immunising against tetanus are also,either war torn or in extreme poverty these numbers are very conservative

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    Vaccines might make more sense in many parts of the Third World where disease rates are so high, and where they lack access to medical treatment if the baby does get sick.
     
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    I have seen six cases of Tetanus, more of meningococcus than I want to see in a lifetime, whooping cough, post measles encephalitis.......

    The diseases are still there
     
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    You don't think American aid workers and tourists visit these areas? Unless you are recommending that no American who leaves the country should ever be allowed to return, then vaccinations are going to be needed in this country.
     
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    They usually make sure aid workers get vaccinations before they go.
     
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    But not everyone dies get vaccinated.

    Tourists often do not
     
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    But you're arguing that they shouldn't be made to do this.
     
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    If I was going to the heart of Africa full of diseases, I'd probably get vaccinations too.

    Also we're talking about full grown adults, who are less susceptible to potential vaccine issues because their bodies have already developed. And only a small minority of people choose to travel to Third World countries as aid workers.
     
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    Just takes one to spread a disease to millions of unvaccinated people. Just one tourist. Just one child of an aid worker.
    AIDS was brought to this country by one flight attendant.
     
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    Didn’t click on my CDC report did you?

    Among the reported diseases for 2017 were cholera, tetanus, dengue and leprosy
     
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    No...
    Some person from Haiti visited "mother Africa", had a little sex there, and brought it back to Haiti. Then it started spreading in the Caribbean ethnic community in New York City.

    https://mashable.com/2016/10/26/aids-epidemic-study/


    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...demic-started-spreading-new-york-1970-n673371
     
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    Kudos. Vaccines are a wonder of the modern age.

    Do you support coercing people to be vaccinated against their will? Because those are the only 'vaxxers' that 'anti-vaxxers' gaf about.
     
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    Of course they do, they're Progressives.

    The only time choice ever matters to them is sexual lifestyle and abortion.
    (and maybe psychedelic experiences to a lesser extent, but that's just a contingent of their ranks)
     
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    Is the U.S wrong in forcing foreign aid workers to get vaccines? You just said it was necessary. And if you really think choice is important - why not choice on abortion?
     
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