I Am Jesus - Now Prove Me Wrong

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  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    If I said that I was Jesus, that I was Jesus in a past life, could you prove me wrong? If I gave you details of my crucifixion, would that sway you? Would you follow me, pray with me, support me?

    I ask because last night I watched a show about some guy claiming he was Jesus in a past life. He found this woman and made her believe she was Mary Magdalene in a past life - even though the woman didn't even know who she was before she met 'Jesus' - whose 'real' name is AJ.

    He runs a 'cult' up in Queensland. People flock to his church, they believe he is Jesus - and they expose their children to it. AJ claims to have lived for 2000 years, and that he didn't walk on water or turn water into wine.

    Obviously this guy is a fruit cake, but if someone did insist they were Jesus, how could they prove it to you? Many Christians believe Jesus will return - will he return in his own body, or the body of someone else?
     
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    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    There was only one Jesus Mak and he died a long time ago. His story is in the bible.
     
  3. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Do you believe in reincarnation?
     
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    That's a hard question. I don't believe in the catholics interpretation of it. I believe that we are all "Creation Energy" as I've told you about my OBE before? remember? we are all this energy that is taken back to the end of the universe and put into another body. like a recharged battery..but the brain dies with the body and memories are all lost with the body.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    What about people who do have memories of a past life? If you believe in reincarnation, how would you prove this man wasn't Jesus, if he claimed he was?
     
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    Cannot be - because you are a speaking waste paper basket living on the funny side of the moon - and now prove me wrong.

    http://youtu.be/SzJY96m3lkg
     
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    I believe in the reincarnation of the Creation Energy. Not the body itself returning from the dead.

    When you die all memories and feelings are gone and dead with the body, they all turn into dust. when you are re-energized, you are put into a new body and new memories begin to form. There cannot be two memories in one body. I would say this man is drugs or has memory loss or needs medications.
     
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    Enlighten me: What is my catholic belief in case of reincarnation?

    http://youtu.be/SVKKRzemX_w
     
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    What's your religion?

    http://youtu.be/kmfeKUNDDYs
     
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    Forget the question above.

    http://youtu.be/OFCS7kZwxug
     
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    Jesus Christ sits at this time on His Fathers right hand and throne in Heaven. He is involved in the ministry as advocate for His people, the Church. The Holy Spirit exists upon the earth in the lives of the Christians.

    Jesus Christ will one day return to take the Church out. Not to start a new religious group. He will finally return physically to the earth as Jesus Christ, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, at the end of the Tribulation period at the end of Armageddon. And only then.

    So, anyone claiming to be Jesus at this time is a liar and fraud. Christians know it. Which begs the question, who are these that follow such a one as you describe?

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    I don't know what religion his followers claim to be. He never actually said he followed any religion - at least he didn't name one. He just made his claim and the story detailed his 'life' and tried to trap him with questions, which he just laughed off. He was creepy.
     
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    what jesus did, still lives.... so HE is alive in the actions he imposed to exist.

    The self or consciousness or identity of jesus WILL NEVER WALK again.

    the individual is a liar.

    If jesus has children, his life (via procreation) could be walking around right now. Kind of like the apostles; if they had children, then they may be right here among us all (did not taste death).

    ie.... everyone of us has someone from that period as our ancestor (fact)

    Kind of like, everyone of us has some life from the dinosaur period as well (fact)

    But if YOU do not procreate, then YOU will not have YOU life into the next generation except by what YOU do (fact). In FACT it is quite the DISHONOR to your parents not to procreate.
     
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    Hahaha.. the Andrew Womack evangelical ministry in Uganda is raising people from the dead all the time..

    And the Evangelical movement in China is raising lots of people from the dead.

    At least that's the current claim.
     
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    but in reality even you can comprehend, that you are your parents in the flesh

    believe it or not

    see what i mean...............


    anyone can claim

    but only method of realizing it in fact................... by comprehending the truth of the matter.


    ie..... are you of your parents seed, alive and in the flesh?

    Are you in fact of the very 'life' of your parents?

    Are they IN FACT, alive in you as YOU stand?


    Reality is what is it is!
     
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    Hey, I saw on a billboard that 'Jesus Helps' and to call a phone number.

    So I gave the number to a depressed friend who was having a number of personal and business problems...

    A Mexican showed up with a lawnmower. :twisted:
     
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    But if he was reincarnated?
     
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    Non sequitur. Mak made the claim about herself, not about someone else as you have just done here.
     
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    Funny that is exactly what I would say about someone who tells me they have a "personal relationship" with Jesus, someone who you just told us dies 2,000 years ago.
     
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    But how do you know? What if this bloke down under really is Jesus? Wouldn't it be safer to follow him? I mean what would happen if you are wrong?
     
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    I know because the Bible is clear where Jesus Christ is today and that He will return only at the end of Armageddon.

    No, it would be stupid to follow anyone now on earth claiming to be Jesus Christ.

    Quantrill
     
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    And how exactly is 2000 yrs changing that? Is it true because it is old? It's not like old info is known for being more reliable than new.
     
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    Did ya come inna clouds or was ya born here?...

    ... if ya didn't come inna clouds...

    ... den ya ain't Jesus. Acts 1.9-11
    :fart:
     
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    He would love, without condition, all human beings. He would forgive unconditionally. He would not label any person as good or bad. He would not resort to violence for any reason. He would not care if you called him Jesus or Bill nor would he care if you believed that he was once Jesus or still is Jesus or if you've never heard of Jesus.
     
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    Im not sure I understand your questioning. Two Thousand years has not changed the testimony of the Bible. Jesus is still at the right hand of God. And Armageddon has not yet occurred.

    Quantrill
     

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