Christians instantly dismiss every single Messianic claim they hear. That shows you right there that they don't really believe it. They just go through the motions of being in a religion. You'd at least look into it. They blast the pharisees for treating Jesus the exact same way nutty blashphemers are still treated today, being mocked and such. Have you guys read the gospels? Check out some of the hilarious things the Jews say to Jesus mocking him. Sounds like the stuff was written this decade because folks still mock people the same way. Ya and it's mainly Christians doing the mocking. Shows you that they don't associate Jesus and their religion with the reality of the world around them. They may not realize it, but it's obvious to most other people.
Yes, logic dictates we require the party of the affirmative to prove their claim. That's an interesting position in this context, however. I am reminded of a common argument from the faithful who, when asked to prove the existence of their deity, often retort, "well, prove he doesn't exist.
Mak , as far as AJ is concerned , he probably has a birth certificate somewhere , , , that's proof that AJ is a mortal man and a fraud . The Bible teaches me that Jesus was here in the flesh , walked as we walk , and was crucified on the cross of calvary .... does AJ have any scars on his hands from the crucifixation spikes ? how about AJ's feet ? any scars there from crucifixation spikes ...? NO ? AJ is a fraud ... my opinion ...but the good folks of Queensland will have to make up their own minds.. Now , I could go on with my post , but it'd take someone well versed in the Bible to follow along with me ... it's a simple thing to believe , , but not a simple thing to explain , but because we're friends , I'll try.. The first coming of Jesus was humble and of the flesh ... a carpenters son . The second coming of Jesus will see him returning in a spiritual body ... and he's bringing the host of Heaven with him ... won't be any confusion in anyones mind about what's happening ... But having said that , there will first appear a charlatan that will preform miracles in the name of God , this will be Satan himself , loosed from the pit , and he will sit in the temple of God in Israel and will bring fire from the sky as proof of his power... and will preform miracles ... but he is a charlatan that seeks to usurp the mercy seat of Christ for himself... in those last days of Earth as we know it today... When Jesus returns , he's bringing all the host of Heaven with him , and we all will be changed into our spiritual body in the twinkling of an eye.. and all that have recieved the gift of eternal Salvation will join God / Jesus in that spiritual realm of Heaven.. Hope that helps...
Projecting again? Is that what you are doing again? My act of mocking you does not have any bearing on what I know the meaning of. So, you little fallacy of leaning on intellectualism just blew up in your face.
Have you read the gospels? Seemingly not. The Bible instructs the Christians to be wary of people such as AJ... (notice that I did not use quotations and therefore am not saying that AJ was mentioned in the Bible)
Your comments to me regarding "projecting" as a retort to my illustration of your pedantry do not follow logically. Ergo, your comments constitute a classic non sequitur. I'm sorry but this is just a fact. People who know the meaning of words generally use them in the proper context whereas in this instance you did not.
You keep forgetting that we are operating from differing forms of philosophy and ergo, one should expect to encounter such conflicts in differing forms of 'logic'. Oh Well.
So not seventy times seven? God loves all of his children equally until some are more equal than others? Why is that a judgment of the good or evil of Peter, rather than a judgment of his actions or words? Church steps aren't people. The answer is not knowing.
"ΒΆ And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and [of] the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Mar 8:32 And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him. Mar 8:33 But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men. " Now it is time for me to turn the table on those that would accuse others of being too literal with the Bible. Peter, as is seen above, was involved in an activity [rebuking Jesus]; An activity that which demonstrated that Peter was being influenced by an entity other than God, and because of the nature of the Christ, that other entity was immediately identified and was addressed by Jesus when Jesus spoke in the direction of the person [Peter] that was being influenced by that other entity. Now did Jesus really rebuke Peter or did Jesus rebuke Satan, the one that was influencing Peter. As I have said before, you have to know when to take the Bible literally and when to recognize what is really going on. But because what was happening was a spiritual encounter, it is not likely that non-theists would be able to recognize such an instance. Those non-theists would automatically take such a writing literally. Then there is also the possibility that the setting was merely an erroneous interpretation of what was stated... But I would venture to guess that the literal interpretation was due to a condition of 'ignorance of the subject matter.'
he had to prove man was capable of going on a diet of the mind and did not have to feed their sinful appetites
Has Makedde aka Jesus posted the birth certificate yet? I have some experts standing by to discredit it as a CIA manufactured forgery.
Tell you what... you call me when yours has enough power to get itself off the launchpad. As for me, I prefer to soar with the eagles than to wallow with the hogs.
I don't think Jesus would have taught that soaring with eagles or wallowing with hogs was relevant to one's spiritual growth. Expressing a preference, however, is evidence of earthly leanings. God made hogs that wallow as well as eagles that soar. Do you think that He expresses a preference?
He was asked that question, and he does not. It is not the same body. He says he was Jesus in a past life.
The resurrected Jesus was also a different Jesus in his past life. Yet he still carried those wounds in his hands. Remember, Jesus died, and was resurrected.. thus making the life prior to his being buried in the tomb, his past life.
How was he a different Jesus? Jesus died then came back to life - wouldn't that make him the same person?
Its clear that jesus is a white man with blonde hair and blue eyes that wears a gown (but I thought he was jewish but dont tell christians this)
ask him if jesus is a cat (with 9 lives) he said jesus died and came back different (when per se arose from the tomb), now christians are awaiting the return of the returning dead? (revelation; return of christ (per se). the lies of belivers will not stop until they begin to realize what they have been led to believe were perhaps miscommunicated in the first place. Kind of like, torah evolved to bible, then to quran and next they await the next chapter (return of /??????) the circle jerk is practically stupid