I can’t square conservatism with freedom.

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  1. Cybred

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    Except that you are.
     
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    Lied? When?
     
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    No it isn't. Not nationally.
     
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    What makes you think that I, as an anarchist, determine right and wrong?

    I'm an anarchist. I'm not God.
     
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    Thats right i am in on the conspiracy. we are making plans to build a new world order. the reptilians will devour the flesh of the weak.
    Yes, I am all up in other people's business. If you are violating the laws of the society than I fully support police forcing you to stop. without a society you likely wouldn't have survived infancy. everything you have including the ability to communicate with me was something given to you by generations of societies. once society existed as a concept people immediately abandoned anarchy.
     
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    God is a ruler. he created a society and rules and even made people to rule over you.
     
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    The Hebrews got away without a government for a long time. They had Moses, but Moses was just a prophet, not a king. In fact, if I recal correct, when the people asked Moses to start judging their disputes it wasn't long before Moses father in-law stepped in and told him he was potentially replacing the pharaoh they left Egypt to get away from in the first place.

    So the Hebrews had the law, which incidentally was litteraly carved in stone, twice, and they developed a system of keeping local disputes judged locally. But the Hebrews did not write the laws, they merely tried to follow the laws handed to them.
     
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    God created the first slave.
     
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    Without someone enforcing this law it is meaningless. also Hebrews had tribes, tribes had rules and rulers.
     
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    You never read the DOI have you? If you did you must have missed the appeal to "The Supreme Judge of the World".
     
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    Why would you trust some rule a person made?
     
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    Boomerang that one right back at you....
     
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    I am not the one claiming to an anarchist. I grew out of that.
     
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    I know you are not a anarchist. I also know you have no working recollection of the Declaration of Independence. If you had a working recollection of the DOI you would have imeadiately recongnized the term "The Supreme Judge if the World".

    Instead you seem to think it's some dude in a black robe. Maybe not, but that's the vibe I'm getting.
     
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    Haven't seen god make a ruling yet.
     
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    Only because it's not your turn yet.
     
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    I know you aren't either.
    you are appealing to men ruling over you.
    So you get vibes? they are wrong you should trust facts not vibes.
     
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    Like this fact-

    The fact that you don't want to answer you own question...

    I'll answer it first, I don't trust rules people make up. Why do you trust rules people make up?
     
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    you didn't answer it.
    thats false. you have appealed to th DOI multiple times. thats something people made up.
    I don't. i just have to live within them.
     
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    You do?

    You know Wisconsin had a state law that if you buy a meal at a
    restaurant they have to serve you a ounce of real Wisconsin cheese. No bullsxxx, that was signed legislation.

    Do you have to live within that kind of law?

    Me, I don't eat that Krafty cheese....

    Edited- wait a minute, what's false?
     
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    I can't tell what you are responding to. i guess you aren't making a point
     
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    We’re the ones that threw off the shackles of past norms for instance, hereditary privilege, state religion, the divine right of kings—or—what was traditional Conservatism.

    Back to the basics is what’s needed today. We all should stand for and celebrate Liberalism. That is who we are. We should be reaffirming our social contract and oppose those attempting to chip it away.
     
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  23. Green Man

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    I asked you what is "false".

    You said-
    If it's past your bed time we can continue in the afternoon.

    It's past my bed time but what the hell, I can stay a bit.
     
  24. Polydectes

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    Very many things. lets narrow it down please
    What?
     
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    Yes, I can see it is past your bed time. It looks like you need sleep to me anyways.

    You said it, post #144. What is false?
     
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