I may want an AR-15???

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  1. TOG 6

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    The fact you haven't addressed my questions says all that needs be said.
    Thanks.
     
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    I did address it.

    You need to have a realistic assessment of the threat level to answer the question appropriately.
     
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    Or has bacon.
     
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    You know this is not true.
    - Nowhere did you tell us what happens after the intruder kills the dog.
    - Nowhere did you explain how an alarm will stop someone willing to kill the dog.
    Disagree? Cite the posts and quote the text.
     
  5. Lucifer

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    Then he better have eggs too and make breakfast.
     
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    You actually believe that a common household burglar is going to go through that much trouble to rob an apartment? If that is what you believe? Then the next question is why would that burglar target you out of any other residence?

    Unless there is a specific reason why you fear someone breaking into your home, simply having a gun over any other security measures is overkill and exposes you to other liabilities and risks. Having a realistic assessment of your risks is the first order of business.
     
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    It's comical that he thinks an intruder is going to hang out in the home they have entered illegally where ear piercing alarms are going off.
     
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    Thank you for continuing to demonstrate you did not, and can not, address the issues raised with regard to your claim.
     
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    Thank you for proving you have a deep seated bias.
     
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    If the electrical system of the residence is disabled, such as by flipping the main disconnect of an outside breaker box, the alarm system is worthless.
     
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    :lol: @ the irony.

    I graciously accept your concession.
    Just come on back, if you ever want to try again.
     
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    Most alarms have a siren that can be up to 108db. You can't stay within earshot of that for too long.
     
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    "Most alarms"
    :lol:
    Demonstrate this to be true.
     
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    Just because you don't like my answer does not mean it's a "concession". You have an agenda to push. That much is clear. A gun is not the end all be all solution you think it is.
     
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    WTF?

    That's going to depend on the system you buy, don't you think?

    So now you're just going to bombard me with stupid questions?
     
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    It does.
    You know you cannot meaningfully address the points put to you, and have avoided doing so.
    Thus, your concession.
    :lol: @ the irony
    You, not I, have talked about guns.
     
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    And so, your claim that "Most alarms have a siren that can be up to 108db" has no demonstrable basis in fact, and thus, no meaning, whatsoever.
    Well done.
     
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    That is what it was as a M-16 designed for, allow young men and boys to have a rifle that they could handle and operate without a ton of training.

    Stick with 20 round Colt or equal quality magazines and you will have a very reliable, jam free rifle.

    None the less you need to train how to clear a jam, for your own good.

    Store it when you are there or not there? Answer that, and i can provide you with some good ideas.

    Probably not, that rifle is too popular and politicians who push banning it generally find themselves un-elected or not elected.

    Yes go here and you shall find all the training you will need.

    https://www.nrainstructors.org/Search.aspx

    The AR-15 by design is very easy to maintain.

    https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/tips-for-cleaning-an-ar-15-rifle-guns-for-beginners/
     
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    As you cannot possibly have any sort of realistic assessment of his risks, and you cannot addresses the issues previously put to you, why would a reasonable, rational person think your suggestion, above has any merit?
     
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    The OP has not described what his security concern is based on, so I am assuming he is referring to general security. For most homes, what I prescribed is sufficient. If there are other extenuating circumstances, then those would be considered too.

    What part of that do you not understand?
     
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    And once the alarm system is bypassed and the dog fed a hunk of beef laced with a bit of something, that security system is null and void.

    Not to mention cleaning up the carpets where the dog craps.
     
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    I brought up already - he tried to side-step these concerns and instead conceded the point.
     
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    Again, WTF does this mean?
     
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    :lol:
    See post # 44
     
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    Most of which are easily compromised.
     

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