I think I have figured republicans out AKA tea party

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Montoya, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. thediplomat2.0

    thediplomat2.0 Banned

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    I would be in favor of including the portion of this 50% that has a higher income stance. Anyone on or below the poverty line should be exempt from paying taxes.
     
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    I did not see anything about the teaparty or conservatives in the article.

    You do realize the men that wrote this are from the UK
     
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    Hartisan Packery!!!!!!!
     
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    Nice spin the right answer is it is not the rich not paying taxes but democrats deciding who pays. Get rid of the IRS and the current tax system and go to the fair tax act
     
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    Unfortunately, in practice and in the context of partisan politics, the Fair Tax Act is idealistic.
     
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    Sorry, taxation is a subjective issue, and can be solved with multiple approaches. As a matter of fact, policy as a whole is subjective, so denying a policy as wrong is ignorant.

    One flaw of some politically active citizens is that they beleive there is only one solution to a problem, you displayed that through your post.
     
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    So, I read every single post, and after Montoya posted a reasoable question in the OP about right-wing attitudes and not one right-winger has anything intelligent to say. That's so typical of them: can't answer a question, can't provide intelligent debate, so just attack the question and the person asking it.

    Bachman, (Trump) Palin, Perry, Rove, Gingrich . . .

    (chuckle)

    man
     
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    Close the tax loopholes, stop the corporate welfare, bring the troops home, stop giving foreign aid to nations that are already better off than us, stop printing money and giving it to bankers who are not lending because the Fed is intentionally holding interest rates low to avoid inflation. Stop the expansion of homeland security and spying on people and the black budget.

    Some of those things were promised by Obama, but he has failed to accomplish anything. You cannot vote the correct people into office when they are always put up there by special interests and mega-corporations.

    It's not the rich CEOs taking your money, it is the federal government refusing to do anything/aiding them because they are bought off from the get go.
     
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    ...yeah the facts or reasons why we should even entertain your far fetched assumption....
     
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    So...you expect us to answer every ludicrous thing someone who doesn't agree with us says? Typical Liberal. Always trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

    The OP posted a far fetched baseless opinion. Tell me why I should entertain him by answering (so he can reply with something even dumber and equally unsourced). I'd rather sit here and laugh about it, more fun.
     
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    If my opinion is so far fetched, then explain in detail why?
     
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    I can understand how you'd conclude that. As a "right wing extremist", I want you to live on the fruits of your labor and ability, and I honestly believe that to be a bare minimum...perhaps even less.

    And who are they? How can you tell? What business is it of yours?

    Oh, we incorrigible Republicans. Not only is that irrelevant to us, it's irrelevant to us that a lazy McDonald's worker gets paid $10/hr.

    Anyone who takes from Government, and doesn't contribute, is a drain. Are you one of those?

    This gets back to the fruits of your labor and ability. I have no doubt whatsoever that you should have no luxuries, and you should likely be living under a bridge, if at all.

    You act as though you're entitled to things simply because you breath my oxygen. You're not.

    Work ethic, intelligence, individualism, determination, and personal accountability. That's just for starters.
     
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    I rest my case. :bored:

    You want me to reply. Source your own post. I'm not taking your bait lol.
     
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    Why because the democrats can not control it and use it to buy votes?
     
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    No that is one of many solutions. The current tax system is broken
     
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    Reasonable?!?!?!? Yeah right.
     
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    Childish rhetoric. Just because conservatives do not approve of your immature, naive ideology, does not mean they are crazy or destroying this country.
     
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    Can this person be any more incorrect about the Tea Party?
    And youre wrong,the Tea Party isnt only Republicans.
    We are made up also of Blue Dog Conservative Democrats and Independents.
    You have no clue what you are talking about.
     
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    lol!

    Lefties are so conditioned by the hyperbole and overly emotional rhetoric emanating from their herders, they consider that pap 'reasonable'
     
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    Man, the tea party is going to be pissed when they find out Obama has already beat them too it.:bored:
     
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    So were in agreement that taxation can be solved through multiple approaches. Finding something that a Democrat and a Republican can agree on is rare.
     
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    If you agree the current tax system is broke and we need to get rid of the IRS
     
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    There is nothing at all far fetched about it. Tea Partiers and the Republican party do preach very unreasonable senarios about how people with no money are supposed to tighten their belts. "Social Security is an entitlement", GW Bush ran up the highest deficits in history, and now all of a sudden the government is spending beyond its means. "Unions are bad for America", "tax cuts for the rich create jobs": well, Bush gave the rich their tax cuts, the economy crashed, these unemployment numbers are almost as high as they were during the Reagan adminsitration; the rich still have their tax cuts, and - where are the jobs? The OP makes some very good and reasonable points, and the fact that right cannot engage this thread with intellignet refutaion of these realities only iterates the point that the right-wing really is out of touch and can't explain their own thinking.

    This only says that the right really doesn't know what they're talking about and are too stupid (sorry, but it's true) to realize that they're shilling against their own interests.
     
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    Whoa. That is the progressives agenda, for about 100 years. Biggest congressional caucus in Washington. None bigger. Redistribute the wealth. Fundamental Change. Tear down the US, cause you can't raise up the world.

    The little old TEA Partiers are doing it.... just after a couple of years? Huh. With all those Progressives being the ones in Barry administration, one might think it was them looking to tear down America.

    Yep. You nailed it. Not a soul in America sees who is really tearing down the country. LOL.
     
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    Well, for starters, it requires an overhaul of the Federal income tax system, and a replacment consumption tax system. A consumption tax system would in essence leave the upper income brackets exempt from feeling the brunt of its provisions. It is essentially targeting the middle and working classes, who are the majority of consumers. Yes, the system allows the free market to determine how often a consumer is taxed, but consider that in this type of an economy, consumer spending has been decreasing steadily in all income brackets:

    The following is average daily spending in upper level income brackets:

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    The following is average daily spending of lower and middle level income brackets:

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    No matter how much money is freed up for consumer spending through this system, people do not have a willingness to spend money in such an unstable economic setting.
     

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