I understand you hate guns ...but what about archery?

Nobody is getting murdered with bows and arrows. And yet...

Biden blocks federal funds from schools with archery and hunting programs | Washington Examiner

Fortunately...

House approves bill striking down Biden's crackdown on hunting and archery in overwhelmingly bipartisan vote (msn.com)

So reason is not yet completely dead, nor is it completely partisan.

But still. Can we at least agree this 'war on arms' might be trying to go further than 'public safety'? Why would ANYONE want to increase regulations on archery ...other than an agenda againt weaponry in general?

And don't tell me 'they' arent coming for my guns. 'They' already tried to come for my bow and arrow (yes, metaphorically, these things always happen in gradation). They want everything they can get.

 

As an environmentalist I have to say that the “hunting” is more of an issue for me. But bottom line - how do these schools fund the insurance coverage?

 

Probably the same way they did back when I was in Middle School and we had archery

 

I am an archery coach. It is a great sport for teaching kids discipline, mental focus and it allows kids who don't have athletic talent for some other sports to do compete successfully. It also is an extremely safe sport. I have several students on athletic scholarships to schools that now have varsity archery programs.

 

how many kids do you think get hurt doing archery versus far more violent sports such as soccer. both my niece (who played D-1 soccer for four years) and my nephew (who was a D-3 All American, he lost a D-1 scholarship due to injury) both suffered major ACL injuries in high school. I have coached over 500 kids in archery and the only injuries we had involved couple kids getting scraped when they walked into arrow nocks in the target because they were looking at their score cards and a couple who hit their arms with their bowstrings because they forgot to put on an arm guard.

 

Not sure. But the same question would apply to gymnastics, football... any sport comes with risk of injury, care to wager whether the statistical risk of injury is higher in gymnastics or archery?

The bill could've targetted hunting without targetting archery.

...but what do you have against hunting?

 

Hmmmmm - you have never seen a big breasted woman attempt archery have you?

 

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Like this? Whats the problem?


I mean ya, she might wanna spread her stance out a bit (then again it might be fine, bad photo angle) ...but either way, thats something they could teach in an ARCHERY PROGRAM.

*Also I'm still wondering what problem you have with hunting. Are you vegan?

 

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Well first off, she's laughing. Clearly she wasn't seriously (or even moderately) injured. Secondly, it doesn't appear she's ever shot a bow before. She also appears to be at some sort of RenFair? Nothing against RenFair, but its not the place to LEARN how to shoot a bow. The place for that would be an ARCHERY PROGRAM with trained instructors.

*Also I'm still wondering what problem you have with hunting. Are you vegan?

 

Vegan is old Indian word for bad Hunter.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Liberals are against teaching children basic gun safety because they are afraid that kids might actually grow up to like guns.

They would rather them remain ignorant because the ignorance fosters fear and they use that fear to strip away people's rights because people don't understand their rights.

The rights that you do not know that you have you effectively do not have.

 

I have NO PROBLEM with hunting as part of your daily survival such as the San people in Africa.

But I have a MAJOR problem with these effing LUXURY "hunting tours" that MURDER big game animals.

That is just a LEGAL form of POACHING because ZERO effort or skill is needed in order to obtain a "trophy" and a picture of the CRIME scene showing the VICTIM(S), the WEAPON and the KILLER(S).

 

From a moral perspective I tend to agree. But from a practical perspective- did you know that the vast majority of the funding for animal conservation comes from hunters? Both in the US and the rest of the world. In the US most of the money for conservation comes from selling hunting permits (and guns and ammo tax, btw), and indeed those permits are used to reduce game populations that would typically surge as a result of a lack of predators (like wolves) that used to keep them in check. In other countries, such as Africa, virtually ALL of their conservation fund come from rich big game hunters. They pay 10s to 100s of thousands of dollars to kill ONE endangered animal, and that funds the protection of the entire preserve, as well as brings money to the local communities who provide guides, lodging, etc. Also the local communities usually eat the kill and are very happy for the extra meat. Sure, it would be nice if the hunters would just give them the money without killing the animal ...but there's plenty of 'don't kill the animals!' people out there NOT giving them any money at all.

 

Wow!

Liberals are OPPOSED to GROOMING children?

You need to be 18 to BUY a gun but let's get the kids ADDICTED to GUNS before they have any CLUE what the RISKS are when it comes to pulling the trigger in the wrong place?

"Hey Timmy, wanna see something cool? My dad showed me how to use his guns. You open it like this and you put the bullets in here and then you close it up and pull back the hammer, BANG, oops, my thumb slipped, are you OK, Timmy?"

 

Would you consider taking a kid to Karate class to be 'grooming' them?

 

Culling is only "necessary" because we ALLOW the KILLING of wolves. One crime doesn't make another crime any less of a crime.

From an MORAL perspective there is NOTHING that JUSTIFIES the mindless BLOOD LUST that drives anyone to MURDER an animal for "SPORT".

There is NOTHING remotely "sporting" about that kind of MURDER. Sport is COMPETITION where everyone has an EQUAL opportunity to WIN. Shooting competitions at RANGES meet the definition of being a sport, just as archery does.

If you want to an animal tracker you can do that WITHOUT killing the animals, all you need is a CAMERA to PROVE to your buddies that you were able to get that close to a 15 point buck in the wild.

There is ZERO justification for the KILLING of those animals for "sport". Sad when even POACHERS have a better reason for killing than those COWARDLY "big game" hunters do.

 

How much money have you donated to African endangered wildlife preserves? Because unless its a lot, then those evil big game hunters have saved far more endangered animals than you have, even though they killed a few too.

 

"Hey Timmy, wanna see something cool? My dad took me to karate class. You stand like this and you put your hands and arms here and then you punch like this." "OUCH!" "Sorry Timmy, would you like to come with me and my dad next week?"

Sure BEATS having to ATTEND the FUNERAL for Timmy next week, doesn't it?

Which part of NEEDING to be 18 in order to PURCHASE a gun needs to be explained when it comes to GROOMING?

 

Every good progressive knows it's far better to keep children completely ignorant of even the most basic aspects of gun safety.

It's for their own good and safety after all that they not have a clue about what a gun is or how to even be safe around one.

Just let them learn everything they know about guns from TV and social media....

 

ROFL!

Just because I am NOT a WEALTHY ELITIST with a gun obsession I am the one who is ENDANGERING wildlife preserves?

Hilarious that you believe that FALLACY.

I live next door to a wildlife preserve by personal CHOICE! Wildlife preservation is a WAY of LIFE around here. I see more wildlife in its natural habitat first thing in the morning than most people see in an entire YEAR.

 

How do YOU explain "gun safety" to a THREE YEAR OLD?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-di...lls-1-year-old-sister-with-unsecured-handgun/

Looks like 100% of those ADULT gun OWNERS are the ones who ARE "completely ignorant of even the most basic aspects of gun safety."

 

Anyone who remotely pretends to care about gun deaths obviously doesn't care if they are against teaching kids basic gun safety.

There is zero logical argument to make to be against such a thing. Those who would attempt to make an argument against it can only engage and hyperbolic Hysteria and emotionally driven ignorance.

 

It is just that RESEARCH shows “teaching kids” about guns is not very effective in reducing the morbidity or mortality

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1524839918774571

This was a systematic review of literature
Earlier research

https://publications.aap.org/pediat.../An-Evaluation-of-Two-Procedures-for-Training

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...KAMPqetG4KbZxzUDYlk7D-4cO8uRANxAcMXR1WrCb3dNk