I understand you hate guns ...but what about archery?

I'm not talking about coincidence as such, it's more a question of whether the ultimate outcome was actually what anyone had planned or intended or whether they were trying to achieve something else (good, bad or somewhere in between) but it didn't work because of the mess that is partisan politics. There is also the question of why anyone would actually plan to eliminate archery clubs at schools at all.

Also, if you are assuming conspiracy, which one(s) are you assuming; That there was a conspiracy to eliminate archery clubs at schools via the back door or that there was a conspiracy to push through bad legalisation and then attack the administration for implementing it as written?

 

'Concerted action nationwide' isnt an answer, its a copout, the same sort of copout politicos use when they want to pretend to virtue signal about fixing something they havnt a clue how to fix. What action/actions specifically do you propose will ensure that people actually comply with a law to lock up their firearms? Fining/imprisonning them for not is useless unless someone actually checks, and thats not only currently unconstitutional, its also unrealistic from a manpower perspective, unless we hire A LOT more cops (or whomever you think needs be enforcing gun storage compliance). And if we're gonna do that to reduce gun violence, it would be far more effective to have them start tracking down the tens or hundreds of thousands of attempted purchases by prohibited persons reported to the FBI every year that currently go ignored.

 

Maybe we can put those 84,000 IRS agents to work going around snooping through people's houses

 

I think people hate gun stats, they hate gun violence and gun injuries.

I don't know anyone who dislikes food, but I know they hate food poisoning.

I don't know anyone that hates vehicles, but I know people who would dislike being run over.

I know many who welcome food regulations and vehicle regulations. The only ones I know of that hate gun regulations are Americans.

Because of food and vehicle regulations, don't tell me, they're coming for my sandwich and scooter?

 

Would you support regulations on what food I can grow in my garden or cook for my own dinner? How bout what vehicles I drive on my own property?

Contrary to the common narrative we have lots of gun regulations. What we're opposing is more.

 

I'm not opposed to archery. I was in an archery league as a kid.

However, the US government has no business funding schools.

 

And why is this yours or the US government's business?

 

Ashville middle school was first in the nation in 2010 and the high school team is pretty good too.

 

Ashville High School Chase Roberts went to South Africa to compete.

 

the nearest high school to me didn't have an archery team but a pair of twins-one was the alternate in the 2016 team, the other beat brady ellison to win the Lancaster Classic. Kentucky has lots of NASP teams (primordial archery with those silly genesis "compound bows") and the far better S3DA which has compound, olympic, fixed pin and barebow divisions.

 

Decided not to crap the thread.

 

I wonder what division. I know all of our USA Archery team members. that might have been IFAA

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...ation claimed,have better bow control offered

 

Gee it would be nice if you actually read what I wrote and not assume something not there

 

Concerted action nationwide would INCLUDE the OBVIOUS like gun buybacks and PBS programs WARNING of the DANGERS of guns. Schools would be TRAINED and FINANCED to identify and provide ASSISTANCE to kids with mental health issues. Gun dealers would be REQUIRED to RECORD everyone entering and leaving their premises. Guns could NOT be sold WITHOUT proof of a gun safe. Anyone who does NOT use a gun safe and a child is harmed/killed as a consequence would face life imprisonment.

Given that the Founding Fathers INTENDED for there to be a FIREARMS registry that too needs to be put in place with law enforcement having access to it. Just imagine how many INNOCENT lives will be SAVED when the cops KNOW BEFOREHAND that there are NO guns in the residence.

As far as the "attempted purchases by prohibited persons" goes just hand that over to the DEA together with the videos. At least then they will be locking actual criminals instead of harmless pot smokers just to meet their "quota".

 

They want to come after anything that men enjoy doing. .....football baseball and basketball. Archery is just an easy target. I shoot my bow most every day. They want to turn us into a matriarchal society, Mch easier to establish CONTROL!

 

Cops can never know this.

 

well given I have either competed along side or judged at tournaments with numerous national and Olympic level lady archers-don't believe everything you read about archery.

 

sorry the constitution says otherwise. and cops will never know that. because criminals don't tell them.

 

Sorry, the SCrOTUS Bruen decision made is CLEAR that the Militia Acts requiring a gun registry MUST be HONORED, anything less than that would be SACRILEGE on the blood soaked High Alter of the GOP/NRA gun culture.

You can THANK corrupt Clarence for his Judicial Activism in making this part of the Law of the Land.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constit...e-bruen-decision-and-concealed-carry-licenses

The Militia Acts fall WITHIN the "Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation".

 

you confuse requiring someone who may be called up for the militia to prove he has a firearm suitable for militia duty with the unsupported assertion that every gun every person owns needs to be registered.

 

1) that isn't regulation but rather a requirement that those who SERVE FEDERALLY or MAY SERVE FEDERALLY have a sufficient firearm with which to serve
2) those who are not members of the militia nor are subject to militia duty (Women , men over 45, etc) are not covered by that
3) requiring someone prove they have a sufficient weapon to serve in no way gives the congress power to ban or restrict what other arms people can own

 

The CONCEPT of a NATIONAL gun registry that INCLUDED owners sets the LEGAL precedent for having a modern version which would fully COMPLY with CORRUPT Clarence's contribution to the GOP/NRA gun culture of our nation.

Your problem is with YOUR majority on the SCrOTUS.

 

Gun buybacks are a waste of taxpayer money. Most often they spend more on publicizing the event and paying the workers (typically police officers) than they do on received firearms, and thats because they usually offer less than the firearms are worth even at screwjob pawn shop prices. The guns 'bought back' tend to be either nonfunctional, or antiques that grandma didn't know what to do with when grandpa died. Not guns criminals are looking to commit crimes with (ie- functional concealable pistols). But to be fair, the govt wastes money in far worse ways, so w/e ...have as many gunbacks as you want afaic.

Public service announcements might work, so long as they included how to safely handle and store firearms as well, otherwise they'll just be ignored like when the govt says 'drugs are dangerous, dont use them.' We know abstinance doesn't work as an educational platform when it comes to sex and drugs, it doesn't work for guns either. People need to know why and how they're dangerous, and they want to know how to be safe with them too, otherwise its just more 'I'm not sposed to, so I'm going to!' But overall a good idea, if done properly. I wonder why the gun banning politicos claiming 'public safety' never try this tho...

Mental health reform is (hopefully) a given. But not just throwing more money at it (though that is needed as well). The best mental health programs seem to be the ones that don't treat the mentally ill like criminals or like dangers to society by taking their rights away as a prerequisitie to getting evaluation and treatment. There's nothing sane about a system where in order to get better you have to jeopardize your job, custody of your kids or your right to self defense. That just encentivizes people to keep trying to handle it without help.

Proving you have a gun safe would be difficult. Proving that you use it would be impossible. Unless you're suggesting random no-knock raids by LE to check and see if guns are stored properly, there is no way to enforce this. Your previous suggestion of PSAs is about the best that can be done. 'Keep your guns in a safe so your child doesn't shoot anyone' would be great to see during commercial time. Any more than that is just creating a lot of red tape that criminals are going to ignore and doesn't help anyone.

What is your source on "the Founding Fathers INTENDED for there to be a FIREARMS registry"? Are you talking about militia training? Cuz I would agree we should be funding a far better civil defense program that includes training and provisioning the militia with firearms as was the original intent for the bulk of our national defense ...but if you're suggesting George Washington &CO wanted the govt to know who had what guns at all times, I doubt that's accurate.

The cops will NEVER know beforehand 'that there are no guns in the residence.' They will only know that there are no guns REGISTERED in the residence, and that is a VERY different thing. No cop with any braincells ever goes into any situation assuming no one has any weapons or firearms. Except for possibly in prison.

I do like the idea of sending the DEA after prohibited persons who attempt to purchase a firearm. I'd really prefer if we just abolish the DEA... but this works too. However, I find it a bit hipocritical that you want to put people who don't store their gun in a safe in prison for life. Prison isn't the place for nonviolent offenders of any kind, be it drug offenses or gun access offenses. I hope this isn't just an attempt to replace the disastrous war on drugs with a war on guns ...that would be doomed to the same disastrous failure for all the same reasons.

 

So you're a Vegan?