I understand you hate guns ...but what about archery?

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The progressive Left is going to go after archery as well. Make no mistake about it.

    Of course, while guns still exist, there's little point to specifically targeting archery. Or a whole host of other things. But as soon as they get guns virtually banned (or heavily controlled) they will begin moving on to all sorts of other things.

    If you don't believe it, then look at how the Biden Administration recently implemented a policy to ban archery in public schools:
    Biden's Gun Control Law Will Radically Change U.S. Gun Ownership
     
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    There's no way that you or any "study" is ever going to convince me that ignorance is safer than a little bit of knowledge of basic gun safety for children.

    Now that's not to be interpreted as actually teaching them how to use them but simply showing them what they are and why they can be dangerous and how to leave them alone.

    Truly a case where ignorance is not Bliss.

    But I get it... You guys want children to remain ignorant of gun safety
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Literally BILLIONS of children WORLDWIDE are "ignorant of gun safety" and grow up happy and healthy because there are NO guns left LYING AROUND in their societies.
     
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  4. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought you were suggestting that merely teaching children to shoot was 'grooming.' Perhaps I misunderstood. We already mandate the minimum purchase age for firearms is 18 and I dont know of any impactful movement to reduce that. 'Adults only' is fine with me. But which aspect of firearms do you think is 'grooming'?
     
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    I don't think anybody was "going after archery" with the original bill though. It doesn't look like anyone involved (for or against) even considered that aspect.

    Apparently the sponsors of the original bill didn't intend to impact students at all with that clause, claiming it was only meant to prevent that specific funding being used for "school resource officers". The problem is that the actual wording of the bill didn't say that and you can't expect government to apply legislation on the basis of what (they think) was intended rather than what it actually says.

    So, it seems to be more a case of ****-up than conspiracy but some people are trying to spin it up for purely political purposes (as is so often the case).

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...in-overwhelmingly-bipartisan-vote/ar-AA1hlPB6
     
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    at the 1999 US Open, the Mexican #1 had "huge tracts of land". she was shooting against the US #1 Denise Parker: Parker's coach, Tim Strickland was my coach at the time. The Mexican archer had a severe lean to avoid getting hit but for even well endowed women, it's not a problem if the proper technique is used. Hall of Fame archer (I shot for her company-SKY Archery) Ann Hoyt was with us and when Tim said -that Mexican girl needs to be careful, Ann said "she needs a breast reduction!
     
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    its all about cultural hatred. I have coached Olympic style target archers and barebow archers (and a few compound plus a several time world crossbow archer) for decades. The kids in my program run the gamut politically but I'd say the majority tend to be conservative. We have lots of Asian kids-Chinese, Japanese, Malaysian, and Indian and they really lean right because a bunch of them fled Communism-one of my best girls is the daughter of a "boat person". Biden hates the culture that tends to value archery and especially bowhunting (only about 4 of my kids bow hunt). It all is about punishing a culture that doesn't support the Talibiden
     
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    I think that is factually incorrect and you cannot prove it. Id say far more kids are ignorant of the trans-agenda and are happier for it
     
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    Plain stupid to oppose archery programs. There's absolutely nothing wrong with them.
     
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    Gun GROOMING occurs when kids see guns lying around and consider that to be "normal". Harsh reality tells us that this leads to TRAGEDIES. Guns must ALWAYS be out of reach of children in LOCKED cabinets or safes. There should be no gun sales without EVIDENCE that the gun can be SECURED out of the reach of ANY child, irrespective of whether or not the owner has kids. This is just COMMON SENSE but it will TRIGGER the gun obsessed because making it "harder" for them to get their PRECIOUS guns is way more important to them than the LIVES of children.
     
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    Off topic TRANSPHOBIC obsession comment noted!
     
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    you constantly bash christians, trump, the NRA all because you claim they are hostile to your trans-agenda. Is it fair for us who support the NRA or who are Christians or Trump supporters to bash the trans agenda in retaliation?
     
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    So someone that has no children should be required to store their guns in a safe in their own home where they would be perfectly useless for defending their home....

    I grew up in a household with guns and gasp.... I even used them at a young age out in the woods by myself and yet somehow I managed to avoid being a statistic
     
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    Well, given the general (lack of) competency of our elected officials, I guess I can't doubt that too much. But still, its safer to assume conspiracy than coincidense, at least when regarding our awful govt.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you suppose to accomplish this? I live in WA and we mandate that all guns be stored in a safe. I comply. I complied before it was mandated because its good practice. And you'll have to take my word on it because the govt has never checked. Since it was mandated (along with some other laws like MBGCs), our death-by-shooting rate has doubled. Doesn't seem to be helping much... the administration of the MBGCs (aka the defacto registry) cost an extra $10M/year, so its demonstrably a net negative for society so far.
     
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    100% FALSE!

    I provided YOU with LEGITIMATE reasons why MILLIONS of my fellow Americans are OPPOSED to the NEFARIOUS agendas of the Xtofascists War on We the People and the GOP/NRA gun culture.

    YOUR personal obsession with ME being trans (as documented in YOUR post contents) is entirely YOUR problem and have NOTHING whatsoever to do with WHY I am staunchly opposed to the UNAMERICAN actions of the Xtofascists and the GOP/NRA gun culture.

    That YOU cannot DEFEND those UNAMERICAN attacks on We the People WITHOUT resorting to puerile Transphobic comments in your content says VOLUMES.
     
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    Already DEBUNKED that allegation of yours.

    A SINGLE piece of legislation CANNOT erase DECADES worth of the NEFARIOUS GOP/NRA gun culture.

    It is going to take a GENERATION or more to UNDO that DAMAGE to We the People.

    GenZ are making that one of their TOP PRIORITIES because they do NOT want their own kids being TERRORIZED by the GOP/NRA gun culture.

    So that is how you accomplish something like this, with CONCERTED action NATIONWIDE. It is not impossible either, just going to be more difficult than it was elsewhere in the world. Don't worry, NO ONE will take away your precious guns, you already have them safely stored. Now if ONLY we could get the rest of the MILLIONS of gun owners to FOLLOW your example.
     
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    And “knowledge” is not the same as compliance. We teach kids not to speed when they are learning to drive - how many speed?

    Remembering teaching a young relative to drive - I learnt to say “slow” in seven different levels of panic!
     
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    Abso-freaking-lutely! Look at how many Americans are absolutely convinced that the only way, not a way but the only way to defend themselves is with a gun.
     
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    You didnt answer the question.
     
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    We should just let children learn about guns by what they see on television...

    How dangerous to teach kids about basic gun safety
     
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    This does NOT help

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    Neither does this
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    Oh! We can teach them but do not expect that teaching to reduce the morbidity and mortality rate. The ONLY intervention that reduces child mortality is locking up the guns and yet the NRA started a campaign a few years back to stop paediatricians from talking about guns with parents. They were initially successful too - Florida introduced a bill and they had about three other states lined up until the Supreme Court pulled its teeth
     
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    You're never going to convince me or anyone who sees this subject rationally and logically... The teaching kids gun safety has any downside whatsoever.

    Y'all are just afraid that if you teach them anything about gun safety they might grow up to actually like guns and that's absolutely the last thing people with your agenda would want.

    And it's no business of any doctor what a person owns in their own home.
     
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    The question WAS answered, you just didn't like the answer I provided.
     
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