I wanted to be happy but it's just too depressing

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    seems the republicans by the wall wanted to keep their land
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe this will put a smile on your face.

    Florida lawyer files legal challenge to disqualify Trump from 2024 presidential race

    A lawyer from Palm Beach County has filed one of the first legal challenges to disqualify Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential race under a clause in the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment.

    Boynton Beach tax attorney Lawrence Caplan filed the challenge in federal court in the Southern District of Florida citing the amendment's "disqualification clause" for those who engage in insurrections and rebellion against the United States. The amendment was ratified in 1868 after the Civil War, during Reconstruction, and also addressed the citizenship status of freed slaves and the re-integration of the defeated Confederate states back into the Union.

    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story...lawsuit-aims-to-disqualify-trump/70680140007/

    Boom, there it is.
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    But you have no problem with Bribed Joe running a crime family selling his office?
     
  5. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've said more than once on this forum that I have no problem whatsoever with Joe Biden or his son being prosecuted if there's evidence that it occurred. I have no allegiance to the man and I never wanted him to be the president. Of all the Democrats that ran in 2020, I would have preferred Tulsi Gabbard, although that was before she decided to help Kari Lake campaign. I didn't have a problem with her swapping to the Republicans, but I draw the line at helping Trump and his acolytes spread their moronic stolen election nonsense.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    But, you insist, ney demand, that there's zero evidence. But...the Russia collusion hoax was legit...lol
     
  7. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I didn't say there was zero evidence at all.

    The collusion "hoax" was the result of Democrats and the media taking the opportunity to make implications they didn't have the evidence to support. Russia was meddling in the election, just like they have since, but Trump's involvement to the point of "collusion" was always assumed and implied but never substantiated. They ran with it and hoped that the anti-Trump flavor of it would cover up the fact that they didn't have the gravy. It's one of the great stupidities of the Trump era because he is a man that gives you more than enough ammunition to oppose him with that is purely legit. Why folks feel the need to make up lies and nonsense, taking a page directly from Trump's own playbook, to oppose him is a mystery that I can only chalk up to shallow headed foolishness. You're not going to out-Trump Donald Trump. For all of his lacking, he is still pretty good at being himself. Trying to copy him just makes the copier look more like a child than Trump makes himself look when he does the same things.
     
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    What hoax?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Exactly...lol
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Hunter committed 5 felonies. He's admitted to that. Why isn't he being aggressively prosecuted?
     
  11. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why do you think he's not? It's the same reason Trump was not prosecuted or removed from office during his impeachment trial while in office. Beyond that, it's the age old story of the rich and elite having a different set of rules. And in that my dear Mr. Kelso, is as bi-partisan of an idea as there ever was. It's universal.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You haven't been paying attention. Have you?
     
  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly, there was no hoax.
     
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    Of course you don't think there was...lol
     
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    But no problem with over $20M in international bribes going through a web of 24 shell companies and emptying into Biden Family bank accounts from foreign oligarchs? Pardon me if your 'disappointment' seems a bit much.

    Trump's criminally charged in Fulton for suggesting folks watch a news program?
    Mark Meadows is criminally charged with asking for an election officials phone number?

    The GA indictments are completely ridiculous, which is probably why Trump has suddenly leapt out to a 3 point, beyond the margin of error lead in the latest poll.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2023/NY_Post_GOP_National_Aug_25_2023.pdf

    Trump's Triumphant Return To Twitter: He's Back: Trump Posts Mugshot to X

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    He's Back!
     
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  16. JohnHamilton

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    Did you sleep through the sweetheart deal David Weiss cooked up? Did you sleep trough the fact that David Weiss slow walked the investigation until the statute of limitations until Hunter got away with tax evasion? Did you miss the part of the deal where Hunter became immune to all futures prosecutions? Wow! What a deal!
     
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    There you go again. To you it matters not what people think on issues, it only matters which politicians they support.

    I would LOVE to have a true conservative person as the next POTUS

    You? Me thinks you are stuck on populist / pseudo-conservative movement
     
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    What makes me sad is that if Trump were a democrat then the positions on Trump would be reversed. Trump has taught me that some people are above the law… even though he lied to us all when he said no one was. American politics is about holding the out group to standards the in group are not held to. Then the hypocritical partisans rationalize away their hypocrisy and delude themselves into believing they are superior.
     
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    So you are a conservative who votes for the Democrats. One might call that political schizophrenia. I have voted for Trump because he was the only alternative against Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. Both are them are bribe taking crooks.
     
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    No, I do I am not a "D" voter. Sorry. Anything else you want to share about my voting habits?

    PS. I did not label myself as "conservative", - you did. Having said that, the political compass puts me in that corner. Where do you land?
     
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    But they won't lift a finger to complain about it, and they will still vote for the people who want to ban gas stoves.

    Mm-hmm, tell us about how "most libs do not want to ban guns" either.
    (sarcasm)
     
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    Sure we do, that is what made them not implement it, the left and Biden told them "NO!"

    most democrats are pro-2nd, many want to ban the ar-15, but some want to ban guns entirely

    just like most republicans are pro-choice, but some want to ban abortions entirely

    the problem is, but parties are split almost 50\50, and they need the extreme to win, so they cater to them more in words then in actions - both parties
     
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  23. Junkieturtle

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    My point exactly.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    What part of me essentially stating that Hunter Biden got away with it because he is the son of a politician(rich and elite) makes you think I wasn't paying attention?

    No, I see it all. It's you who can't or won't bring yourself to admit the same about Trump and some of his cronies.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Is this an automated reply? Are you an AI?

    I just told you I have no problem with prosecuting Biden and his son. Why would you respond as if I was pretending he wasn't a criminal?

    Do it. Put Joe and Hunter in jail. See how many f***s I give.

    Just don't think the existence of Joe and Hunter Biden negates the existences of Donald Trump and those who tried to help him steal an election.
     
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