Idaho passes laws instituting death penalty for child rapists, outlawing AI-generated child pornogra

Child rapers should be deprived of life. It's not as if they're human.

I also agree about AI-generated kiddie porn. It's still kiddie porn, which should be illegal in any format.

There now, you see? Another thing we agree on. I think we're up to three now. Cool, right?

 

Thanks for the chuckle.

 

I don’t know: there’s no victim with ai. Maybe it’ll keep these pervs from doing it in real life.

 

I'm willing to bet that none of them were raped as children, or have children who were raped.

 

And when those fake images stop working?

I'm thinking that a proliferation of fake kiddie porn would just escalate urges that have so far been kept under control.

 

I disagree. See #30.

 

I dunno, maybe. But it sounds like the people who say watching porn will make you a rapist.

 

But that isn't a fact.

Bottom line is that we have to address the fact that a small portion of the population has this condition. We as a society should be able to come up with solutions to help them not become criminals by acting on their urges. So far, the only solution that is offered is chemical castration, which as a preventative is a bit extreme.

 

It is nevertheless targeting a specific group, and the goal of eliminating said group. I'd argue it's the same as culling the mentally deficient. So, eugenics fit better?

 

Who says that?

 

It only targets the worst of the worst pedos, it doesn't apply to regular pedos.

 

Who says that?

 

Ha beat me to it. Word for word.

 

Targeting specific groups isnt inherently a bad thing, even if I respect the healthy skeptissm of such a considerable change in justificatiom for capital punkshment.But it also really only targets the members of that group that act on thier urges. Not those who do not.

 

My opinion of child predators is that they should be removed from the midst of the rest of us.

I prefer it would be in a manner that doesn't cost the taxpayer for the rest of their life.

And yes I am talking about a lawful sentence of death

 

And you have complete confidence that nobody who is innocent is ever convicted in the American justice system?

 

So you would add that as a requirement? No death penalty unless it is supported by incontrovertible DNA evidence?

 

Would you support that being a requirement to ever incarcerate anyone?

After all if an innocent person has been incarcerated they are being denied that portion of their life

 

Good question.

Mabye.

I'm not sure. I definitely don't like the idea of someone being put to death wrongly.

 

I find it very flummoxing that the same people who are dead set against the death penalty because let's say for sake of argument perhaps one in 30,000 people put to death was actually innocent, that the other 29, 999 guilty should go free of punishment.

But yet many times these are the same people who have no problem with abortion. Kill the innocent and save the guilty.

 

Indeed.

I am asking people who support this death penalty law whether they believe anyone is ever wrongfully convicted.
You see, it comes down to this.

If you believe the American justice system is perfect - that nobody who is innocent is EVER convicted - then

it is easy to accept the death penalty. Because mistakes are never made.

But, if you believe it is imperfect - that innocent people CAN be convicted - then there’s a moral choice to be made. Either you believe that it’s ok to risk putting innocent people to death (in which case you can support the death penalty) or you don’t think that ris is acceptable (in which case you must be opposed to the death penalty without qualification).

So two questions:

1 Do you think innocent people are ever convicted?

2 Do you believe that it’s ok to risk putting innocent people to death?

 

Nobody is saying those other 29,999 should go free.

 

Effectively a person is if they are against the application of the death penalty.

 

Of course innocent people are sometimes convicted.

The answer to your second question requires considering another question.... If the existence of the death penalty saved more lives by acting as a deterrent.... Then the very rare life taken by a innocent conviction.... Which one would be more important?

 

Life in prison is hardly “letting someone go free”.

But I can now see where you are on the moral spectrum. You have no problem with innocent people being executed.