If gay marriage is great, okay to marry your sister?

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If you support gay marriage, would you also support marriage between brother and sister?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I suspect it depends on how one feels about it affecting gene pools?

    ...
    "People who domesticated plants and animals were likely the first to figure this out," Wheelwright said. "When they inbred, they got lower birth weights, increased embryo death and decreased fertility."

    Still, genetic diversity is at times less important than other advantages, such as better guarding of offspring in some African fish that inbreed. On the whole, however, the risk of incest in plants and animals generally outweighs any of its benefits.

    The problem with incest is that it can keep so-called "bad" genes in the gene pool and compound their effects, said Debra Lieberman, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Hawaii.

    "Close genetic relatives run the risk of having offspring that have a reduced chance of surviving," Lieberman said.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-incest-makes-us-so-squeamish-flna1C9449898
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Those in your list also deny or take rights away from another person.

    How does gay marriage do that sort of thing?
     
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  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is harmed in a sibling union?
     
  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The divorce rate has only been "improving" because so few people are bothering to get married in the first place. Obviously a couple can't get officially divorced if they never got married.
     
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  5. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I notice an attempt on the part of most of those answering in this thread to deflect from the question and avoid answering.

    Clearly there is an inconsistency. One that many don't want to look at, because they know it will likely make them look hypocritical.
     
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  6. Izzy

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    ffs, learn the meaning of "hypocritical".
    Supporting gay marriage has **** to do with siblings getting married any way you look at it.
     
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    The offspring.
     
  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are they? You realize a brother and sister can still have a baby without getting married? Or do you think sibling sex should be illegal as well? (So much for the "two consenting adults" argument then)

    Would you support a marriage between brother and sister if they were both sterilized?
     
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    Many incestious unions have substantial amounts of manipulation and genetic risk to a potential child, not to mention marriage creates legal kinship where none previously exists — which is why only one marriage at a time is allowed — this isn’t needed in a sibling union as that kinship already exists.

    Is there a big push for incest unions or is this another ploy by the anti-same sex groups that are fighting a battle where they have already lost the war?

    You have failed to answer two separate questions now that I have asked — it’s almost like you are aware of the cognitive dissonance, and you just don’t care.
     
  10. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It demeans the institution as well as the family structure. It affects the entire culture. Of course it's promoters don't see it that way.....that is a given.
     
  11. dairyair

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    OK then, no rights are taken away.
    It doesn't demean anything. IF you're married, how has your marriage been demeaned?

    Of course normal people don't see it that way. It's not true.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shameful.....twisting selective passages to secure your lusts.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you don't have to believe the bible if you don't want too, be a simple Simon
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you don't have to have ANY standards if you don't want to......just follow your lusts like a dog in heat.
     
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    so Christian of you, I can only think you must be projecting...

    Telling people to follow their lusts like a dog in heat, weird you want to preach that
     
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    It creeps me out, but I'm not sure it should be illegal. Then again, who is actually even trying to do this?
     
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    I have standards. Better standards than those to be found in the Bible.
     
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    It's all rather biblical to go consider same sex = incest for the sake to go consider it all illegal.


    Putting it this way. Same sex couples in the animal realm are not as uncommon as Christians would like it to be. From lions to pinguins. So who are some to say it's not normal when it's all around to be found? While marriage between siblings isn't such a problem, their offspring is a problem. Goes without saying.
     
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    Today, knowing all that we know in the 21st-century, then YES, it should be permissible to marry your sister! But, if you and your sister decide to have children of your own, and if the child turns out to have mental or physical problems, then that is entirely on YOU AND YOUR SISTER!

    At no time, and for no reason can any difficulties caused directly or indirectly because of a person's decision to marry a sibling become a burden on the public, or on the government at any level! Enjoy freedom, but live responsibly!
     
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    Then why would you object to marriage? Unless you already support sex between brother and sister being illegal.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As you know, that's just not how liberals work.
     
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    The mariage and even sex between brother and sister wouldn't be a problem.
    Them having kids would be.

    While the thing is that people who have a marriage and sex, often enough end up with kids as well.
     
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    You must agree. No demeaning.
    Even your marriage isn't demeand.
     
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    It demeans the word Marriage. They could have chosen any other name, but they want to tear down the family structure and confuse the issue.
     
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    Lol. No.
    It's a legal contract between 2 people.
     

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