If Gays want to Marry.....

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  1. CatholicCrusader

    CatholicCrusader Banned

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    Harm comes in many ways and forms, be it physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual, and more.
    You are wrong: Much harm offten comes from it.
     
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    Data please, or admit it is simply your personal distaste for it.
     
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    Where in the Bible does it say that sex for pleasure is an evil, satanic sin?

    Sources or it didn't happen.
     
  4. thebrucebeat

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    Hmm...no, I don't think I will.
    When you have no power, like in the rest of your life, you resort to lashing out? I pity the sad women who says "I do" to you.
    At least you admit these are your "imaginings" and have nothing to do with an educated opinion. By the way, why would you have to imagine? Doesn't God tell you directly what you spew on these boards? Wasn't it He who told you the New Testament was liberal fascist bs? And if you don't KNOW these things, why are you so vociferous in your declarations? Aren't you the self appointed judge and jury?
    You see, you are consistently inconsistent, and thus no one on here takes you even a smidge seriously.
    But you are a constant source of entertainment.

    By the way, Christ says there is no distinction in the level of sin, when he says anger equates with murder, and lust with adultery.
    But who believes that guy anyway, right?
     
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    It doesn't, of course, and my source is the bible. Song of Solomon for a really great start. Pretty hot reading!
     
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    It's the people with beliefs like his that keeps me from voting Republican. I don't so much mind their economic policies, it's all the extra religious and pseudo-morality baggage that comes with them that just puts a bad taste in my mouth, not unlike eating a bucket of dried old poop.

    If the Republican party would just realize that half the reason they are so unpopular is because of these members of their party, they could maybe do something about it. Doubt they would, as they almost certainly share these same beliefs. That's sad because it limits the choices a lot of people will make and we all end up voting on side issues instead of the real ones. I don't mean to imply that things like same-sex marriage, or abortion, or "God" in the pledge, are side issues because they aren't important, but at the same time, our country is not going to succeed or fail if we legalize same-sex marriage, or ban abortion, or remove all mention of God in government documents, buildings, etc, just like doing the complete opposite of my examples won't cause the country to succeed or fail either. I think the issues that are central to our future are defense, the economy, trade, and too much government power being abused. Everything else is "secondary" in that sense.
     
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    I see what you did there...
     
  8. The Real American Thinker

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    Actually, it's true. So are sex changes (clown fish), actually.

    But same-sex attraction is not anything like alcoholism or kleptomania, and no amount of "help" will stop them from being what they are.
     
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    I had the same problem with the Constitution Party. Their entire platform was SATURATED in Christianity. It's like they would not be able to coherently supply a platform without Christianity.

    Turned me off. *shrug* It excludes people who aren't Christian.
     
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    In my opinion, it would be nice if our elected representatives would bear true witness to the excellent job our Founding Fathers did at the convention with our federal Constitution and supreme law of the land; simply for the sake of morals.
     
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    The Founding Fathers were protestants who strongly opposed the Catholic Church and its corruption. They didn't want a SECOND Catholicism established in the New World.....

    What ended up happening??? Obama was elected President, and wants to legislate morality, by saying it's "okay" for Gays to marry. Well, what is THIS if not a mandate on morality across our nation??????? What is this except a SECOND rising of Catholicism? A state-sponsored theocracy.

    And I'll add one thing. Obama is a hypocrite. He has a wife, and two daughters. HOW THE **** DOES HE HAVE THE NERVE TO PROMOTE A MARRIAGE HE HIMSELF DOES NOT FOLLOW???? Only a couple of queers can promote queer marriage. Otherwise, you're a hypocrite. Do as I say, not as I do?????!!!

    If Obama really wants queer marriage, then he should go pickup a male prostitute and show us what he means.......
     
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    This is actually a GREAT idea!...they claim to seek marriage then seek it in Satan's house since what you're doing is a perverted satanic lifestyle anyway.

    Well said.
     
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    What really pisses me off.........more than anything maybe, is hypocrisy. And liberals are the BIGGEST ****ING HYPOCRITES IMAGINABLE!!!!!!!!

    "Oh I support gay marriage!" -- liberal flag waver

    Goes and has a heterosexual marriage in a CHRISTIAN church.


    It's hypocrisy, DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO. If Liberals really promote gay sex and marriage, then THEY should show us how it's done. Don't preach what you refuse, yourself, to do. Any Liberal who promotes homosexuality, should go **** *************.
     
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    So only someone who is gay should be able to advocate for same-sex marriage?

    Obama's coming out in favor of same-sex marriage is the second coming of Catholicism?

    What's the trifecta in your pyramid of insanity?
     
  16. GraspingforPeace

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    Heretic, for some reason I sense that there is a thoughtful and reasonable person under all of that hatred, you really should work towards showing that side more.

    Anyways, I'm confused, how is this hypocrisy? What do you mean "they should should us how it's done?" Are you saying that people can't support homosexual marriage unless they are homosexuals? Do you really see no bag logic in that argument you just spat out? I also support interracial marriage but I didn't marry a black, latino, or asian woman.
     
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    Then YOU are a hypocrite........what's so complicated about this????

    If you want to promote racial miscegnation, then go marry outside your race. Don't hold opinions that YOU YOURSELF do not follow. And if you do agree with positions you do not follow, then AT LEAST keep your logical inconsistencies, your hypocrisy, to yourselves! Keep quiet about it. It makes you liberals look embarrassing, to practice OTHER than what you preach.
     
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    The only thing that liberals are advocating is exactly what Jefferson advocated. He said he didn't care what his neighbor did as long as it neither broke his leg or stole from his purse. Jefferson didn't have to behave as his neighbor did, only tolerate it as long as it did not harm him personally.
    I strongly advocate for the right of people to pursue happiness as they define it.
    I fully support your following your bliss to find a woman you deem inferior enough to you to marry and propogate with. I wouldn't do it, but if that's what makes you happy, Godspeed!

    It isn't about promotion of a position, it's about not villifying it. Stay out of another person's business, and they'll stay out of yours. There is no legislation, nor will there ever be in our country, that will try to force you to have a gay marriage. No one cares. Why do you?
     
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    Woah, woah, woah. Are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kidding me, dude? What you're essentially saying is that you can't have ANY opinion on ANYTHING unless you embody that opinion. I can't say that child abuse is bad because I would be a hypocrite since I don't have one! I can't have an opinion on abortion because I am not a woman!

    Really, man, this is the (*)(*)(*)(*) you come up with? I promote equality among people, people can marry whoever the hell they love. I married who I loved, and she just happened to be caucasian.
     
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    Isn't he entertaining? Thoroughly dependable to amaze!!!
     
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    People DO care about gay marriage though, Brucey Pie. Take a look, just seven minutes, on this forum. PEOPLE CARE about each other's business. To not care, to not be interested, to blind ourselves and remain ignorant of the going-ons inside our own country.....goes against nature. And it is RESPONSIBLE To take care of our neighbors, and look out for them. There comes a limit when TOLERANCE becomes intolerance.

    If your neighbors are having orgies, gay sex, blaring loud music day and night day and night, and preach liberal values, then where do you draw the line and walk over to them, and say "You guys have gone TOO FAR, and need to stop this...." Where do you act on their behalf? Where does an adult take responsibility over children? Where is the dividing line between learning the hard way, and the getting yourself killed way?

    That's what we're up to, TODAY. We've gone beyond the point of tolerance.....how much is "too much"?

    We're at the point that the STATE, believes it can begin introducing (im)morality, in the name of democracy, in the appeal for more votes.

    It's time to call the liberal hypocrites OUT! If you want to support gay marriage......then go practice homosexuality FIRST. Otherwise, yes, you're a hypocrite.
     
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    Spirituality is not easy.....did you think CHRISTIANITY entails just "voting" and "speaking", never DOING?

    Yes, PRACTICE what you PREACH. Is it difficult??? **** YES IT IS!!!!!!! That's why not everybody is spiritual. That's why God speaks to few, rather than many.

    Look at Christ....who carried the Cross, the WEIGHT OF THE WORLD on HIS shoulders....where do you stand to Him????? Where is YOUR strength and conviction??


    It was an accident that you married one of your own race?????? An accident?!!?!

    So nobody marries on purpose? Nobody has sex on purpose? Nobody is attracted to her, but not the other girl, on purpose??? Sex is always instinct, always reflexive, never based on a CHOICE???????

    No.....I think you have a perfect demonstration of the liberal mentality here. Sex is never "chosen". So the "RIGHT TO CHOOSE" doesn't actually exist. Nobody "chooses" who they have sex with, or marry.........EVER. This is a great reiteration of the Liberal mentality, and political agenda. Everybody is designed, genetically, to marry one but not the other.

    Nobody is to blame, for anything, ever. PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF LIBERALISM, BRAVO GRASPINGFORPEACE, BRAVO!!!!

    Nobody is to blame, for anything, ever.
     
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    Yes, if they ask for help. But forcing somebody to do something isn't really "help", it's just you trying to force your morality on them. You aren't their parents.

    We aren't their parents, though. And I don't care if my neighbors are having gay sex or orgies or worshipping (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Cthulu, they can do whatever they want behind those walls as long as they don't hurt anybody. Really, the only part that affects you was the "blaring loud music" bit. Really, you wouldn't even know what they are doing behind those walls, would you?

    But isn't that what you want? You WANT the State to implement morality, but only YOUR morality.

    Do you support the right of an obese woman to marry a normal person? Are you a normal person with an obese woman? I mean, if you DO support that right, you must be a hypocrite.
     
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    Do you know how many people died by cruxifiction? I don't believe that Jesus died for my sins because some book told me it was so. The guy died because he was a heretic preacher at the time, wow, what a miraculous occurrence.

    That isn't what I said, psycho, so settle down. People choose who they have sex with and marry. I don't know any person that would claim otherwise. BUT, I do not think that that persons choice has to line up with what they WANT to do. Some people don't want to marry the person they are with, but they do. Some people don't want to have sex with a woman, but they do. Doesn't mean that they WANT it, though. See the difference?
     
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