If homosexuality were proven to be changeable...

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  1. DevilMay

    DevilMay Well-Known Member

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    Would it even matter? I personally do not believe being gay is a choice, and I am of the opinion that everyone is somewhere on the "spectrum" of human sexuality, with very few truly at either end completely.

    The anti-gay marriage crowd seem to bring up the "choice" issue a lot, as though it being proven to be a choice would be grounds to deny civil rights. But that's directly comparable to denying religious freedom, which most of those same individuals presummably believe to be inalienable. You choose your religion, however.

    Would anyone argue against the rights of non-Christians to marry, serve in the military or be free from discrimination in the areas of goods, services, employment and housing?
     
  2. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    They call it "a choice" to more easily dismiss the need for equal protection under the law.

    Even though is not any evidence to support their position.

    However, people who use religion as the basis of their lives and the basis for denying civil rights are hardly known for the adherence to evidence based beliefs.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The government has no right to tell me, as a consenting adult male, who to marry of share my life with, as long as they are also a consenting adult.

    -But-

    If they provide benefits to one class of people, it is discriminatory to not provide that to all classes of people.

    Should blacks be able serve in the military?
    Should women be able serve in the military?
    Should Muslims be able serve in the military?
    Should Christians be able serve in the military?

    How is, should gay people be able to serve in the military any different?

    Same with the marriage equation.
    A more logical solution (since so many people are arguing now that it is for the children) would be to just take away the marriage credit and place it as a child credit, but then I don't know what they would cry about as gays are adopting the straight people's abandoned children :omg:
     
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    That would be a big deal. I'd guess the majority of parents would prefer their children to be straight. It might be as high as 90-90%.
     
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    Most parents would probably want their children to be straight, only because they know how they'd be treated if they lived a homosexual lifestyle.

    If you could choose to be gay, I don't know why anyone would. Why give up your basic human rights?
     
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    I take it you're not a parent. Most parents I know want straight children so they can live a conventional life and have grand children.
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    Yes, they (homophobes and anti-homosexual people) do that.

    That's correct.

    Exactly!!
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Further more, if homosexuality were change, I imagine heterosexuality would by changeable by the same means.

    That would be as amusing as hell to see the bigots work their way around that one.

    LOL
     
  9. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Which would mean a lot of bisexuals are CHOOSING to identify as homosexuals or heterosexuals. They get pressure from both ends of the spectrum to pick a side.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I think the Sambia tribe is proof that heterosexuality is changeable.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Friend of mine says he gets laid all the time as a homosexual. As a divorced, middle aged balding heterosexual he went a couple years without getting laid even once.
     
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    Or that bisexuality is prevalent.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    "Pravalent"??? 100% is is a little more than prevalent
     
  14. Johnny-C

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    You can't seem to speak sensibly about any of this. People should intellectually ignore much more of the BS that comes form you keys. :(
     
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    ????Did I strike a nerve a little too close to home their Johnny? Question was asked and I provided an answer.
     
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    I am not a parent. Not yet, anyway. But when I am, I will love my kids no matter what.
     
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    Most parents I know, including me, are only concerned with their children's welfare and happiness. Their sexuality is the last thing on our minds.

    :roll:
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Some parents, like the Christians on here (who have already commented on what they would do) would disown their own children and refuse them entry into the family home until they 'change back'.
     
  19. Johnny-C

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    No "nerve" was struck; if you annoy me THAT much, you'll know it. I just wonder why virtually every answer or thought your relate on 'homosexuality' (or any aspect of it), comes off as expressing some degree of insanity?
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    100%? No. I'm not bisexual. I could not choose to be gay. Many people I know say the same, but I can only speak for myself. History (e.g. ancient Greek armies) would suggest that a significant minority, if not a majority, of people are capable of bisexuality to some degree, though. For whatever reason, I cannot imagine finding other men attractive. And I doubt I'm lying to myself because at the same time I don't think there's anything wrong with homosexuality or bisexuality.
     
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    Well, Ill mention to my friend that you think his explanation is insanity.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Your not in the Sambia tribe, silly
     
  23. DevilMay

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    Yes definitley, I think most people are bisexual to some degree, with social factors playing a large part in which end of the spectrum they indentify with (explaining so called "gay conversion therapy"). Most naturally identify with the end of the scale they are closest to, which makes sense really.

    Take for example the fact that more women engage in bisexual or "open minded" behaviour than men. I'd say social stigmas with respect to male homosexuality and machoism play a big part in that.
     
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    That would work.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    He says typical and that you would swear he has been repressing his homosexuality his entire life. Another reason he identifies as homosexual. He says with some of them its like a religious belief.
     

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