If Jesus died for my sins

Some false statements are easier than others to spot.

Regards
DL

 

There are many things people do that have nothing to do with law enforcement. In the end, people are going to do what they want to do and will not do things they don't want to do. The Bible (whatever version one uses) and law enforcement rarely have anything to do with it.

 

Because sin most commonly harms the people around you in the short term, and harms you in the long run. I believe you could live a life full of sin and then get into heaven. But its gonna be a shitty life, and may turn you into the sort of person that would actually prefer hell.

 

I reckon a life full of sin is not easy.

 

Your response is similar to my own initial reaction, which is a virtuous life is its own reward (this doesn't mean you have to live like a Puritan crank, either).

A life filled with harming yourself and others is probably going to be a short and brutish life that ends badly. Not my cup of meat...

 

I'm sure there's been a few who have tried.

 

so you were not taught that Jesus died for your sins? and that Jesus was God? the guy punishing you for your sins?

 

oh, so you meant like having a discussion about Santa coming down the chimney, and asking what if you have a fire going...... just taking it for granted it happens?

 

I seem to recall some organizations devoted to an idea like this: sinning as much as possible so as to show appreciation for Jesus's sacrifice. I think Rasputin was rumored to be a member of a group like that, though it was probably propaganda.

 

so if Jesus did pay for all our sins, yep, guess we should make sure he gets his moneys worth

 

RE: If Jesus died for my sins?
⁜→ FreshAir, et al,

BLUF: The topic question, in itself, presents an entire book of follow-on questions and opens the initial dilemma on the deity...

(INTERRUPTION of LAUGHTER)

Do I inject "hee-hee" or "ha-ha"?!

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There is a paradox between the intentionally inflicting of pain and humiliation on the "Son to the Supreme Being" (sSB) and two primary question sets.

◈ What is the Value of Intentionally Preventing the Infliction of Pain and Humiliation (IoPH)?

The Supreme Being → who
"so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son,
that whoever believeth in him, should not perish,
but have everlasting life."​

✦ The torture and sacrifice of the sSB.
✦ The mock justice system used to persecute the sSB.
✦ The creation of a flawed following.​

◈ What is the "implied cost" (IC) of averting the Infliction of Pain and Humiliation (IoPH) on the sSB?

✦ What is the expense to humanity if the IC is totally ignored by man?
✦ What does the SB exchange in value besides inforced homage?
✦ What does the SB loose in the absence of inforced homage?​

These two primary question sets are only the first in the order of determining the meaning behind the actions the SB opens before the Abrahamic SB Following.

If the SB is all-powerful and all-knowledgeable, the creation of the SB should be perfect. There should be no need for a SB to IoPH upon any creation as a means of atonement for flaws of the SB's own creation.

This moves us to a new primary question sets.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

The "if" you begin your sentence with speaks that you do not believe in the Lords provision. It doesn't matter in the state you are in. We all sin but "Believers" know Jesus provided a way. We try not to sin....but it is in our nature. Jesus promised to help us overcome and that is out desire. Unbelievers can "walk in sin". It's to be expected.

 

Talon...... I know you are sincere but it is a waste of time on this thread. If you recall the lesson of the "Cross". There were two thieves on either side of Him awaiting their own death as they hung there. One of them mocked Jesus and sid "if you really are the Son of God then why don't you save yourself?" Something happened to the other thief. He recognized the power of God when he asked Jesus to please remember him when he came into His Kingdom. Jesus replied, "Today you will be with me in Paradise".I think that about sums it up. Other than yourself, this thread is entertainment for "mockers"...... a waste of time.

 

If someone commits a Federal crime they can receive a pardon from the President.

If someone commits a State crime they can receive a pardon from a Governor.

But if someone commits a crime against God (sins) he (God) cannot simply forgive them. No, in order to forgive them and save them from himself he has to sacrifice himself to himself.

Yep. Makes perfect sense.

 

Do you think trump had a shitty life?

 

That doesn't answer the question.

But yes, non-believers by definition walk in sin if sin means not following the God they don't believe exists. That wouldnt just apply to atheists but to all theists as well, in regard to each other's Gods.

 

If you can live a life full of sin and then get into heaven anyway, and be a good person but be sent to hell for choosing the wrong God, interpreration of God or concept of God, then what are Hell and Heaven and why is heaven described as good and hell as bad?

If a god fearing converted Hitler is in heaven and Ghandi in hell, why should the former be preferred by any of us to the latter?

 

Do you know why Santa goes up and down the chimney?

 

It does make perfect sense if you decide questioning it is "mockery" and a waste of time. Prevent yourself from questioning what your faith leaders or holy text tell you and anything and everything will make perfect sense.

 

Because thats where he gets the coal to put in the stockings of bad boys and girls?

 

Why do you think anyone would be 'sent' to hell?

 

Your very existence is a sin it's not about what you actually do.

You could do everything the Bible tells you from day 1 and you would still be a sinner.

All mankind are born that way.

 

Santa uses the chimney to enter and leave people's houses because he is a magical creature in a fairy tale. Superstitious people thought that witches and spirits used chimneys to enter and leave peoples' houses. So, when Santa Claus was created the writer Washington Irving had him using the chimney in his 1812 book.
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/90217/why-does-santa-claus-come-down-chimney

https://hudsonvalley.org/article/how-washington-irving-introduced-americans-to-santa-claus/

 

What evidence can you present that the basic claims of the Bible are in any way valid?

 

It does answer your question. Because you don't believe, the provision of Jesus' sacrifice does not apply to you. Your sin does not compromise or belittle His sacrifice. Though it grieves Him.....you can go your merry way. The fact believers still sin, and hopefully less and less, it is a shame. But God understands and that is why He made the terrible sacrifice atoning for our sin.