If we faulted in our debt it’s Biden’s fault and here’s why.

We elected a Republican house. The only branch that can write spending bills is the house because they are in charge of the purse. They are doing exactly what they were elected to do… To be a check on liberal spending.

That aside, the republicans offered a bill that would reduce spending in April and Biden doesn’t like it. He also has his demands that the republicans don’t want to adhere to. The thing is he has no control over the purse. The purse is in control of republicans and they offered a plan to pay the debt bills. Just cause it doesn’t have Biden’s demand list is no reason to default on the debt. The purse bearers have that power… sorry Biden.

 

Republicans are saying we shouldn’t pay for bills congress has already authorized. Republicans should be involved in the next budget but they should not be able to demand we not pay our current agreed to bills.

When a Republican president is in charge, republicans demand a clean bill to pay our debt — they are simply trying to crash the economy to win the next elections and have now left Washington without a deal.

This should be all an informed voter needs to make a decision in 2024.

 

Ultra MAGA will own this....sorry but politics over country is their current brand.

 

I suppose, according to your theory, the Senate and the president should just rubberstamp any bill that originates in the House? I bet you'll sing a different tune if the Dems have the House and a Republican is in the WH.

 

So its REPUBLICANS FAULT.

 

Dems don’t try and lower the debt without persuading them. And it’s not a theory, it’s a fact that they were elected to control the purse.

 

They wrote a bill that would pay the bills, just like they were elected to do. It’s the Dems blocking the granted money from being able to be spent on our bills.

 

No, they are the ones granting the money to keep us out of default. If the Dems turn that down it’s on them

 

Democrats refuse to negotiate. As they refused to negotiate in 2012, as they refused to negotiate in 2018 and as they refuse to negotiate here. It's been a clear pattern in the 21st century that the Democrats won't negotiate the debt ceiling. That's why I'm a proponent of a fixed budget. A flexible budget only works if the governing body is conscious of the costs that is incurred during the fiscal year, but Democrats are neither conscious nor wary.

Hence, a fixed budget is what's required. Because in Biden's own words, democrats are incapable of the negotiation required for a flexible budget.

 

That’s not what’s happening though.
These items have already been approved through the budgetary process. It’s already been put on the credit card and Republicans don’t want to pay the bill.

Republicans need to be involved when creating the spending plan not throwing a temper tantrum when the bill comes due and then storming out when their ploy flails.

Hopefully Biden pushes that the debt ceiling is unconstitutional and it is removed entirely.

 

No, they want to cut some programs of excessive spending. That’s their job to manage the purse and they are doing it. Biden wants new taxes in the debt deal as well. He is not in the position to demand things from those we elected to control the purse. They wrote a bill that Biden refuses to sign. They are trying to do their job to ensure we don’t default. Biden however is dead set to default which is why he refuses to sign the bill. That’s on him not the republicans

 

How dare the republicans pass a bill the Democrats don’t like! They are forcing the Democrats to make us default which makes it Republican’s fault for making the Democrats default us! Rawr!

kinda like when a Democrat shoots someone. It’s the Republicans fault for letting him have a gun.

Can someone please stop Republicans from making Democrats do evil things!

 

If Democrats are unwilling to negotiate with Republicans, they should have no problem with a fixed budget then in which the spending and the limit is capped, and there won't be any goodies for their pet projects.

 

There has to be a negotiation. Yes, the house can draft a spending bill. But the Senate needs to pass it, too. And Biden can veto it. So both sides have to negotiate a budget. It's that simple. So saying that its Biden's fault if no resolution is reached is basically saying it is Biden's fault if republicans refuse to negotiate. And that is effectively what they are doing because while McCarthy is, to his credit, attempting to negotiate, he doesn't actually speak for his party. Hardliners just introduced a new set of demands today. Imagine trying to negotiate with the republicans when their position is constantly shifting.

 

Republicans had no issue passing spending bills when Trump was president, but when it comes time to pay off those debts incurred under those aforementioned spending bills, they refuse to.

Color me shocked.

 

The debt ceiling has always been raised whether republicans or democrats controlled the house.

How much of our debt was reduced when the GOP controlled all 3 chambers?

 

it's the Republicans in the House's fault, they refused to raise the debt ceiling with a clean bill - Republicans are the ones taking America hostage

 

"The purse bearers have that power…"

yep, and they (Republicans) are to blame if they abuse that power, just raise the debt ceiling like we did during the last Republican President... easy

 

Honestly, it's a tricky subject. Because GOP control was far more perilous, then when Democrats could boast the same in 2008-2009. So to some degree, Democrat votes were necessary. But also, and a huge part of what I dislike about the GOP is the military spending was also a part of the budget issues.

But even though both parties have their pet items, at least the GOP pays the issue some lip service. Whereas Democrats had the initiative during 2008-2010. And then again, as I said they were given proposals in 2012, 2018, and now the recent negotiations in 2023-24. 3 Times in six year periods, the GOP tries to negotiate this issue, and all times Democrats have refused.

If I were a leading member of the GOP, it has become clear that the Democrats are not serious about, nor have any intentions of a serious negotiation. How long can their face be spited by the Democrats? The GOP should force the issue on a fixed budget, as the vast majority of Americans would want a budget, rather than a continuing resolution(CR) and force some hard votes, and an actual situation in which they'd have to negotiate.

 

That's the problem. They oppose only what they consider 'liberal' spending as opposed to looking at the whole picture. They play a silly and dangerous game and its 100% political. Dems do it too when the situation is reversed, but doing something and then trying to shift blame on someone else is a losers strategy.

If there was a GOP president in the WH, the GOP would be hiking spending, like they did in 2017 when they controlled the purse and had a GOP president. They hiked it 20%.

However now, there is a Dem in WH, so they refuse to pay the bills and that defines the word "deadbeat".

They did negotiate. That's how the Sequestration Act was born in 2012. They also negotiated in 2017 and every other time.

It always increases when they are in control.

"When Republicans are in control , there is no conservative party in US" - Rand Paul on GOP budget which hiked spending by 20%, which sent deficits skyrocketing.

 

And the House is supposed to rubber stamp all of the ridiculous and excessive trillion dollar spending bills the Democrats propose? These ridiculous proposals, which are designed to make the government into a de facto socialist behemoth are going to ruin us.

 

Let’s see. The Democrats have given hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukrainian and want to spend more. Yet they want to cut defense spending? That makes no sense. What about the rest of the world, including a very aggressive China?

 

Yep, just keep spending and building up the debt with no restraint or series thought what so ever. If the interest on the debt reaches a trillion dollars a year, do what?

Do you ever listen to yourself, or is it all about ideology and the Democrat Party?

 

If fault is to be found, it resides in our political parties [note plural!] The drafters of the Constitution of the United States of America warned about the danger to the country posed by 'factions'. They admitted that there was no barrier against it other than the character of the legislators elected to office. Note that the founders also insured that the Senate of the United States of America was insulated from direct democracy. As a side note, the Republican Party in Texas had, as one of its platform goals in 2022, the elimination of the direct vote for federal Senators. They also wished to repeal the federal income tax. See Section 19 on page 4 of the actual document: 2022-RPT-Platform.pdf (texasgop.org)

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

Yesterday’s closing balance, Treasury General Account; $49 billion

According to Yellen; Zero dollar as early as June 1st, no overdraft.

Extraordinary measures; Nearly exhausted.