If you don't want a baby, get your tubes tied.

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  1. ChrisL

    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    It was good to see that they mentioned adoption in that link above. I think it's important to reiterate the abortion isn't the ONLY option.
     
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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Yes, women have many many options, and I think it's important to emphasize them all.
     
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    Well, there's something we can agree on.
     
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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Especially the ones that don't result in a dead baby.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    dude, most of the information about Fed funding comes from their website....don't call me a liar when they are telling you that
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/bar...od-got-5406-million-government-grants-fy-2013
    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/11/...x-for-planned-parenthood-equals-more-profits/
    https://winteryknight.wordpress.com...es-planned-parenthood-receive-from-taxpayers/

    Planned Parenthood Buys Senate Vote With Tax Money
    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ed-parenthood-buys-senate-vote-with-tax-money

    Planned Parenthood To Receive Obamacare Funds For Insurance Enrollment Push
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/planned-parenthood-obamacare_n_3764562.html

    now tell us again that PP doesn't receive any taxpayer monies
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You were called a liar because you said taxpayers pay for abortions. They don't, the Hyde Amendment prohibits federal funding of abortions except for Medicaid patients in cases of rape, incest, and life of the woman.

    You have been led to believe by "pro-life" sites that PP uses its federal funding for abortions. IT DOES NOT. Planned Parenthood is under constant scrutiny, and it has never been found to use tax dollars illegally. Planned Parenthood uses federal funding for other services including contraception and cancer screening, NOT FOR ABORTIONS.
     
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    You know damn well YOU were whining about abortions being funded by taxes..... they aren't... YOU WERE WRONG.
     
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    It's the only option if the woman decides it is. The decision is the woman's, NO one else's.

    And there aren't many other options, have a kid or don't.
     
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    HOW many? It's either have the kid or don't have the kid. How is that "many " options ???
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And for you, "emphasizing them all" means "pressure her to continue the pregnancy." Pro-choicers believe it's the woman's choice, and whichever choice she makes should be supported. She is the one who has to cope with that choice for her lifetime.
     
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    PP does pay for abortions. You denial is proof that you don't read past the wonderment of Liberal Headlines. I've already proven it to you and all you can dispute it with is your unfounded opinion
     
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    if Man has no say in the matter, I think men should stop having sex. If women want sex, then let them pay the Man for his services.
    They must also sign a consent form and a waiver for responsibility for the male. Problem solved
    The only thing a Man is to the liberals is a cash register.
     
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    AGAIN, show me WHERE you proved abortions are funded by taxes ...you have NOT.
     
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    :roflol: """men should stop having sex"""


    OK, I'm sure they will because YOU think they should :roflol:



    I really don't think a time will come when women have to pay men to have sex.......:roflol:
     
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    well, the first choice they have is NOT to have sex......
    The second is not to make the Man responsible....
    The last thing is they should be forced pay for abortions out of their own pocket, completely pay for the *ahem* procedure. Especially since they get to call all the shots.
    again, Liberals feel that consequences for irresponsibility are irrelevant.
     
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    stomp your feet and scream all day long, it doesn't change the fact that they do pay for abortions and who is to say they don't use taxpayer monies? You? of course you do.....
    now stop the abusive language, it's embarrassing to you...
     
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    why is it so hard to believe? You want to make the male fully responsible for the actions of a female, while the woman goes on and gets pregnant again.... Aren't' Liberal women good................................
    again, dodging the consequence thing again, as if it doesn't exist at all. A word that isn't found in the Liberal Dictionary.......
     
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    You have NEVER proven taxes pay for abortions. Never.



    You're as wrong about that as you're wrong about me using abusive language...
     
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    Show exactly where I said males should be fully responsible for the actions of a female.
    I never did and your post is verging on inflammatory.

    I will keep pointing
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    If the couple have a meaningful relationship, then the decision is mutual. If they disagree, then the woman gets to decide, because the decision affects her body and life more than his. You can't really believe a man should be able to force a woman to undergo the physical, mental, emotional, and financial effects of pregnancy simply because he donated a sperm?

    Thanks for that element of humor :roflol:
     
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    I would think that more times than not, it is the MAN who would want the woman to have an abortion if it is not a meaningful relationship. I do feel sorry that the man doesn't have more say, but that is just the way it is because, as you say, the woman's body is the actual incubator for the unborn child. Some of these men just need to realize that these things are dictated by biology and not by "fairness." LIFE isn't fair and nobody said it would be.
     
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    Whether you believe they should be made more personal is purely up to you .. I tend to deal in reality, and the reality is that a person is not expected to suffer injury because they took a risk, even you own car driving analogy shows this.
     
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