I'm convinced that only pot smokers support legalizing marijuana

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  1. markt2530

    markt2530 Banned

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    To stoners like you, it's just a plant. To everyone else, it's a drug.
     
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    Man are you wrong, I've never taken anything stronger than aspirin or tylenol In my entire 64 years except when I accidentally cut the tip of my finger off on a jointer when I was 19 and the surgeon had to finish it so he could sew it up. I had 1 hydrocodone when I came out surgery and it made me sicker than a dog and I told them no more that I rather deal with the pain than the vomiting. But ,back to your statement ,the war on drugs has been a disaster beyond imagination ,costing billions of dollars and countless lives. Alcohol is responsible for more disease, deaths , and heartache than all the drugs in the world combined. I don't drink either and not because of any religious BS, It's because that chitt will kill you and so will drugs.But, you can't regulate stupidity, people are and will always indulge in this BS and it needs be be regulated and treated like Alcohol usage. Tax the dumb B's
    that do it and maybe my taxes will go down ! Oh and use some of the money to educate people on the dangers and maybe 1% of them will listen, but I doubt it.
     
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    Liberals are the ones for the nanny state... which is exactly what you're endorsing.
     
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    All I'm doing is pointing out the absurdities of the pro-legalization crowd. Now all of a sudden I'm a supporter of a "nanny state"? That type of logic could only come from someone who is stoned.
     
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    Your preposterous and irrelevant assumptions aside, I'll note that you have not answered the question.

    But let's assume you are correct -- I'll play your game: Why would a nation of free men imprison its citizens for possessing a drug?

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    You believe it is government's job to protect adult citizens from their own actions: IOW, the precise definition of the nanny state. :flagus:
     
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    What do you mean by a "nation of free men"? A nation of anarchy, where even murder is legal?
     
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    Yes, you are a nanny-statist who probably doesn't believe in nanny-State tax rates, either.
     
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    At least I'm not a drug addict like you are.
     
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    subscribing to irrational choices or rational addictions is not any better.
     
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    How much are they paying you to say that?
     
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    Common Sense is free. Sometimes the truth hurts !
     
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    I'm not a stoner but I'm definitely intelligent enough to see why legalizing something people are going to do anyways is logical. Prohibition has tried to rear it's ugly fascist head many times before and it's obvious to see why it doesn't work. If a government controls and regulates it then you take power away from criminal organizations. Trust me it's far easier for a 15 year old to get weed then it is for liquor and if you don't think that's true then you must be living under a rock. Take it off the streets and out of a criminals hands, regulate and tax the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of it and reap the benefits of stoners everywhere. Come on people it's not rocket surgery...
     
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    Hmmmh? I dunno, how about a nation of men who are free? :smile:

    Smoking pot is the equivalent of murder in your world? We are finished here.
     
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    If the abomination of hypocrisy is worse than a crack addiction, then it is easy to understand why some of the People prefer to repeat the historical mistake of Prohibition, and claim they are not really like that, afterward.
     
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    The problem with banning alcohol is that it's so easy to make. (it's also the problem with banning marijuana, which is almost as easy). Take something containing sugar and let it ferment, adn you have alcohol. My only argument against marijuana is the clearing rate. THC is fat soluble vs alcohol which is water soluble. Fat soluble substances take much longer to clear the body than water soluble substances. That said, I'd like to watch the Colorado and Washington experiments for at least ten years before legalizing it elsewhere.
     
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    I agree ,as I stated in an earlier post alcohol and drugs will kill you so I don't do either ,that's why I think the idiots that do this chitt should be able to access anything they want in vending machines located everywhere with safe guards to prevent access by minors( like they can't get it now). Eventually the majority of these stupid idiots that use this chitt will die off leaving a vast majority of sensible people and the demand will simple fade away.
     
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    My issue is the misclassification of marijuana as a Prohibited drug as compared to alcohol when alcohol is worse since it can be fatal on overdose and even fatal if abstained from, once addicted--that could be a rational Standard for schedule one drugs.
     
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    You might have a point there. I never smoked pot or did any drugs what so ever. I really do not care one way or the other if it is legalized. I suppose a lot of those who never smoked pot may feel the way I do. They couldn't care one way or the other.
     
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    It has to do with the income transfers and coercive use of force of the State--Socialism. Only the right believes socialism is good for the least wealthy while capitalism is good for those with enough capital.
     
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    You don't care? Even when it comes to a public health crisis like pot?
     
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    Not in this day and age. The druggies seem to outnumber the straight ones.
     
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    Public health crisis? MOD EDIT>>>RULE 2<<<Pot is no worse than alcohol and even then it could be argued that it's better. In fact alcohol has been scientifically proven to cause cancer and liver disease. While all the studies about the negative effects of marijuana tend to be inconclusive at best.

    MOD EDIT>>>RULE 2<<<Did you lose someone to a heroin overdose or something? not all drugs are created equal. Different things have different effects, for example: too much whiskey in the evening can kill you. Too much pot will just make you fall asleep.Educate yourself and become part of the solution to this so called war on drugs.
     
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    I don't believe it is any worse than alcohol when it comes to public health. In any case, under our form of Capitalism, it should be about generating revenue to pay for social spending.
     
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    Under our form of capitalism what a person can do for themself is not taxed so why is growing marijuana for personal consuption illegal even in WA and CO where recreational marijuana is legal?

    Under the proposition that what a person does for personal enjoyment should be taxed we should ban private sexual relationships and force everyone to have sex at houses of prostitution so that it can be taxed for social spending.
     
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    Maybe you should ask your elected representatives. Rights in private property are secured in State Constitutions with the specific Terms, Acquire and Possess, and are declared Inalienable or Indefeasible, should any conflict of laws occur.
     
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