"Imagine" rewritten as a Gospel song

Personal insult? Where? I merely offered you a title of nobility. If you want to reject that offer, then that is fine with me. Perfect record? I do believe that such a claim requires a bit of proof.

 

I'm afraid that won't work, because I believe that title has officially already been given to the God of the OT (for saying the 6th Commandment.)
Hey "god", we're not 5 year-olds!

 

Oh, are you talking, per chance, about the oft-repeated super wild claim that a magic invisible man was born of a virgin, died and then magically came back to life, and will now give you eternal life if you just think that you believe in him? Certainly we can agree that THAT wild of a claim would "require a bit of proof", no? If you wouldn't require proof for THAT wild of a claim, then you'd never require proof of virtually any other claim in your life, ever, right?

 

Are you perhaps vying for a similar title for observing the fact that we are not all '5 year olds."/

 

No. No. No.

 

Sorry but you've already lost this argument. As usual you resort to insults and then claim calling someone lieutenant obvious isn't an insult. Thanks for proving that you don't follow your own bible. WWJ think of you telling lies and insulting people?

 

It seems to me that Christians will believe anything, ANYTHING(!), if that claim is about them surviving their own death.

Please tell us what would be a claim that would be just too wild for you to believe, hypothetically, if it were in the Bible. Please tell us. How about, say, the most moral entity of all time killing 99.999999% of the animals (they are innocent) on the planet just because HUMANS screwed up? Would you believe that wild of a claim? For me personally, as a Modern Secular Humanist, any unscientific claim would be met with a fair amount of skepticism.

 

Funny what they require proof of and what they don't eh?

 

Thank you Lieutenant Obvious.

 

Now see, that's how you say that without it being an insult.

 

I love them, and was one of them years ago, so I know what they are going through. We should develop a 6-step program (that's a 12-step program, but w/out the steps that involve an imaginary friend) to help them to see the truth, and to discover the wonders of science and reason.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program

 

Did you fail to see the word "perhaps" contained in the same sentence where you were offered the title of nobility "Lieutenant Obvious"? A suggestion in the form of "perhaps" is not indicative of a declaration. Be serious once in a while. Did you not see the "?" at the end of that printing?

 

Well, Jesus was a liar, and Darwin indirectly proved that, because Jesus claimed to be divine/son of god, but also referred to the Adam/Eve lie, so Jesus was a liar.
When was the last time you referred to anyone (say Gentiles like Jesus did), as "dogs", Alpha!? In Mt 15 he allegedly said “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.”
So WWJ think? Jesus would think that lying and insulting are perfectly fine.

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That's a kind reply, Captain Considerate.

 

Don't tell me, tell it to God. Hes the one you need to convince not me. Right?

 

"You can survive your own death if you pick the one right super-hero out of the tens of thousands on offer".
"Ok, sounds good to me, here's 10% of my income!!"

 

WHICH god? Zeus, Mithras, Allah, Chuck Norris (PBUH)?

 

Christians run around saying, Jesus is the answer, he died for our sins, yet Christians do not follow Him. They just created this creative image of him, and then worship him, in the same way others will worship their sexy wife, the same way others will worship their Porche, the same way others will worship money and expensive material possessions. or the way we worship our own egos, which we think are grand, can do no wrong, are never wrong about any position we take, and so on and so forth

So, when someone says, jesus is the answer, what in the hell are they talking about? The answer to what? Eternal life for an ego, that must die in order to be saved in the first place? That is the great paradox of being a genuine follower of jesus. That this thing called the self, the ego, which we want to live forever, is that entity that must die in order to enter into the Kingdom.

The trouble with Christians is that they do not understand their own consciousness, and when Christ tells them to take up their cross and follow him, they are clueless as to the inner reality of what is going on with carrying that symbol of death of the ego around with them daily, constantly dying to that ego, so that it will not rule the organism and keep on creating sin. JC told several people to go and sin no more. But Christians keep on sinning, for they think they are doomed to sin, when JC clearly told them to be perfect, sinless, as the father in heaven is perfect.

The trouble with Christians is illustrated by you bastardizing that Lennon song. JC said blessed are the peacemakers, but Christians want to fight and kill. The trouble with Christians, and is that they are not actually Christians, but a corruption, created by the old Satan himself. Wolves in sheep's clothing. They talk about love, while being much better at hating. They are told not to judge, while their entire existence is delighting in judging those who they think are sinners. For if they cleaned the log out of their own eye, they would understand they cannot get the mote out of the other's eye, only that person can do that..

So the trouble with Christians is they are fakes, while not knowing it. They would never follow Christ and deny and die unto their own egos which arose in eden with the eating of the allegorical fruit. For they above all, love their own self images, their own egos, and want those temporary entities created by the physical brain to live forever. But the ego is what sins, as it pursues to gratify itself. So, it cannot live forever in heaven. Heaven has no place for selfish egos. Heaven is the abode of the Selfless. Not the selfish.

 

Why would I need to tell God anything, when it is assumed by many that He is Omniscient? Why would you even make such a suggestion?

 

If that's true then why do you pray to him if he is truly omniscient? Seems to me God would already know everything and wouldn't need you to go to church to prove you are a good little worshipper.

 

Ahhh... one of the secrets of Christianity. If you only knew... your world would be a different and much nicer place for you.

 

So then we can agree that you DON'T PRAY, because god is omniscient and knows what's in your heart/mind anyway?

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Yes, we wouldn't have to think for ourselves....one of the nasty little inconveniences of being Modern Secular Humanists.

 

No it isn't! Or else they'd boycott the place for excluding about 70% of all moral humans! By accepting "heaven", one is being incredibly selfish, not selfless.

 

Wrong presumption... I do pray. Prayer often consists of more than asking for something.

Hey that lifestyle is one of your own choosing... so if it is an inconvenience to you, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

 

You just stated and I quote

"Why would I need to tell God anything, when it is assumed by many that He is Omniscient? Why would you even make such a suggestion?"

You now cant tell me why you need to go to church and pray to the same god you just stated you don't need to tell anything.
My world is just fine thanks. Becoming a religious person wont make it nicer. They already tried brainwashing me when I was a child only I was too smart for them and obviously still am.

 

Do your children know that you love them? Do you know that your children love you? Do you like hearing your children say that they love you in spite of the fact that you already know that they do?