Impeachment deposition delayed after Republicans storm proceedings

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    The President and his supporters, always care about the Rule of Law, and don't believe anyone is above it...unlike the Dems.....I can tell you are getting quit desperate though...desperate people tend to lash out with name calling like that
     
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    the people being subpoenaed everyone knows
     
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    For your education:

    The Republican rules now apply. The Republican rules must be followed. We can't revert to defunct rules of yore. They no longer apply.

    For those who don't think the impeachment inquiry should be held behind closed doors, please see Judge Andrew Napolitano on "Fox & Friends" from Oct. 24.

    He reads the rule for the meeting behind closed doors, written by the Republican House in 2015, signed by Rep. John Boehner, for the Benghazi hearings. In an interview on "Meet the Press" that year, Trey Goudey said it was the best way to handle the meeting. He said everyone was able to ask questions without grandstanding.

    There are 47 Republicans in the room that are given the same chance to ask questions.

    https://www.theleafchronicle.com/st...uiry-rules-theyre-now-complaining/2455038001/



     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Your fake claim has been exposed. The rules being followed were written by the Republican House in 2015, signed by Rep. John Boehner.
     
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    The bottom line is that Dems are following the process that Republians put in place.

    And, there are 47 Republicans on the 3 committees, with every one of those Republicans being given equal time.
     
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    Republican congressmen are fully informed.

    I'm not sure what the rules established by Republicans say about restrictions on communication.

    Do you think the Republican rules were open to communication of progress?

    Do you think the Democrats should have changed the process?

    Do you see the need for restriction based on the fact that Pentagon process was involved?

    Do you think that justified the grandstand where Republicans made use of working cell phones inside the SCIF to publish pictures and record?
     
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    No.

    Republicans argued in court that not only is the president above the law, but that it is illegal even to investigate his acts.

    The old claim that Trump could shoot someone and get away with it is now being pushed to the question of whether the police could legally stop the president from continuing to shoot people.
     
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    No, some lawyers did that...that’s what lawyers do, argue. Clinton’s did the same thing, all the way to the SCOTUS...
     
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    Not for impeachment they aren’t

    They are being denied access to evidence in Shifty’s court
     
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    For hearings, but not impeachment...as I have quoted from the house website
     
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    These are Trump's lawyers, carrying out Trump's direction.

    TRUMP is the one who has defied the constitution on checks and balances.
     
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    What is it that you think Republican Congressmen are being denied?
     
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    How has he?

    Actually lawyers make arguements, not always at the direction of their client. With that said, it’s a losing argument based on Clinton v Jones in my opinion.
     
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    Evidence...they wrote and released a letter they aend to Shifty...are you not up to date on the facts?
     
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    Your butt!

    The Democrats in the House of Representatives are trying to usurp the powers of the Executive Branch. The President is subject to check by Congress and the Judiciary.

    That doesn't mean that he is subordinate to them. The President does not serve at the pleasure of Congress or any other body outside of the electorate.

    In no way, is Congress a superior branch. Read the damn Constitution! The three branches of our government are co-equal, yet have differing areas of responsibility.

    Congress and the judiciary are coloring way outside of their lines.
     
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    I agree its' a losing argument.

    But, that IS the argument Trump uses for justifying obstruction of justice.
     
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    You cannot cite any rule that requires a congressional impeachment inquiry be conducted as Gowdy's "circus" or "freak show" public spectacle.

    You may as well stop pretending that there is one, and focus upon the truth that is being revealed in anticipation of what you can expect to hear later, in the public phase.
     
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    Republicans have had FULL representation in all hearings and in review of all documents.
     
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    Calm down and think about it.

    All that is being stated is that congress has the constitutional power to demand documents and testimony.from the executive branch.

    And, Trump is refusing to support that part of the constitution.

    Our checks and balances are one of the major new features that out system of government has, as writtgn into our constitution by our founders.

    Trump has to accept that, or our government is broken.
     
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    "All that is being stated is that congress has the constitutional power to demand documents and testimony.from the executive branch."


    They are abusing that power for political purposes.

    I can't read minds, but I would bet that you know that they don't have an honorable leg to stand on.
     
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    You can't just say that without specifying what it is that you think congress shouldn't have access to.

    The requests for docuents have been totally reaonable. Trump has refused to give up the Mueller report information - which is startling, as in the past such information has been given to congress immediately. Trump has prevented congress from having documentation of his meeting with Putin - a foreign adversary, which proper congressional committees have every right to monitor closely. Trump has refused to divulge tax records that have ALWAYS been complied with by former presidents. Etc., etc.

    In this case, there was a quid pro quo. Even Trump admits that. Mulvaney admitted that. Taylor stated that. There are documents that record that.

    You are the one with no legs.

    Please notice that the Republicans have NO ammunition to support their defense of Trump. They're left with nonsense.
     
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    Congress should have access to anything.

    The argument that I make is that their demands aren't reasonable. They are abusing their powers by making constant demands without any semblance of a reasonable basis for those demands. I bet you know that.

    Their sole purpose can only be obstruction, harassment, and illegitimate. I bet you know that and favor their actions to nullify the voter's choice.
     
  25. struth

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    Can you please provide the elements of that crime?
     

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